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10/11/2017 10:02:16 PM EDT
[#1]
Hell yeah I had that problem. So I quit drinking. I'm an all-or-nothing kind of guy. I can have zero drinks, or I can have 20. There's no middle ground for me. I bet that's true for you, too.

I'm a lot happier without booze. Everything is better.

It's only tough at first. Booze fills a hole in your heart, but that hole can be filled by lots of things that are healthier for you.

PM me any time. I'm serious.
10/11/2017 10:03:50 PM EDT
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Every 5 days?  Yep, you drink too much.

Cut down, way down.  Then quit for at least a month and see how you do.  If you cannot do this you have a problem.
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i just dont think that i can fully 100% stop.

I have seriously had a drink of something every day of my life for the past 20 years and it is a habit that i feel is going to be impossible to break.

this is also coming from someone who managed to quit dipping after 20 years of a can a day habit.
10/11/2017 10:05:05 PM EDT
[#3]
you are an alcoholic.

AA meetings for you
10/11/2017 10:07:24 PM EDT
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Hell yeah I had that problem. So I quit drinking. I'm an all-or-nothing kind of guy. I can have zero drinks, or I can have 20. There's no middle ground for me. I bet that's true for you, too.

I'm a lot happier without booze. Everything is better.

It's only tough at first. Booze fills a hole in your heart, but that hole can be filled by lots of things that are healthier for you.

PM me any time. I'm serious.
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i am close to the same. On weekends when we have friends over and i get a good fire going in the back, usually one or two will try and stay up with me telling stories and then it take me two or three days to get over the hangover. Even though i still crave and still have a drink the next afternoon.

My wife just looks at me with this face and says how the hell do you do that.
10/11/2017 10:08:30 PM EDT
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you are an alcoholic.

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but i really dont feel that i get shit housed.

I just like the taste and the relaxing buzz that i get after a few.
10/11/2017 10:11:31 PM EDT
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Hell yeah I had that problem. So I quit drinking. I'm an all-or-nothing kind of guy. I can have zero drinks, or I can have 20. There's no middle ground for me. I bet that's true for you, too.

I'm a lot happier without booze. Everything is better.

It's only tough at first. Booze fills a hole in your heart, but that hole can be filled by lots of things that are healthier for you.

PM me any time. I'm serious.
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i guess i need to find what hole that is.

i am sure there is one, but i also think about what would fill that hole, and it would being able to be back home drinking a beer with my dad building a fence, or working cows or just burning a brush pile.
10/11/2017 10:13:03 PM EDT
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i just dont think that i can fully 100% stop.

I have seriously had a drink of something every day of my life for the past 20 years and it is a habit that i feel is going to be impossible to break.

this is also coming from someone who managed to quit dipping after 20 years of a can a day habit.
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Age?  If you don't mind me asking.
10/11/2017 10:13:56 PM EDT
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i just dont think that i can fully 100% stop.

I have seriously had a drink of something every day of my life for the past 20 years and it is a habit that i feel is going to be impossible to break.

this is also coming from someone who managed to quit dipping after 20 years of a can a day habit.
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If you can't see yourself going the rest of your life without having one drink, you're not ready to quit.

Drinking is causing you pain, or else you wouldn't have posted this. When it causes you enough pain, you'll be ready to quit. That's how the human mind works.

Some people can take a lot of pain. How hot does the stove have to get before you take your hand off?

I don't mean to preach at you. Preaching doesn't do shit. You'll quit when you're ready. I've been there, and I'm still there. Best of luck to you, buddy.
10/11/2017 10:14:52 PM EDT
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10/11/2017 10:17:36 PM EDT
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It's called alcohol addiction.
10/11/2017 10:17:45 PM EDT
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Heres a test. Try some controlled drinking.
Have one drink a day for a week. Just one drink a day. No skipping a day then having two the next day.
If you make it through the week only having one drink a day, you probably don't have a problem. If after one drink you have to have another and can't stop, you might need some help.
10/11/2017 10:18:31 PM EDT
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If you can't see yourself going the rest of your life without having one drink, you're not ready to quit.

Drinking is causing you pain, or else you wouldn't have posted this. When it causes you enough pain, you'll be ready to quit. That's how the human mind works.

Some people can take a lot of pain. How hot does the stove have to get before you take your hand off?

I don't mean to preach at you. Preaching doesn't do shit. You'll quit when you're ready. I've been there, and I'm still there. Best of luck to you, buddy.
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i dont take it as preaching, it seems like you have been there and done it..

But i keep looking and reading where you said that booze only fills a hole in the heart, and i have to take a stance back and agree.

I once had a mentor of mine that would catch me when i would drink a lot and say that it was only because i was bored.

Maybe i am bored in life, but i am also now in a place where i can not make a drastic change like i was able to 10 years ago.
10/11/2017 10:19:07 PM EDT
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i am close to the same. On weekends when we have friends over and i get a good fire going in the back, usually one or two will try and stay up with me telling stories and then it take me two or three days to get over the hangover. Even though i still crave and still have a drink the next afternoon.

My wife just looks at me with this face and says how the hell do you do that.
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Yeah, you sound just like me. Drinking doesn't put me to sleep, it wakes me up. I can put down insane amounts of liquor and still function just fine. No slurring, no falling, no blackouts, no puking, etc. I never met a man who could out-drink me.

I take that as evidence that there is a gene for alcoholism, and I have it. One more reason to quit.
10/11/2017 10:19:50 PM EDT
[#14]
Ill go weeks without having a drink. OP find another way to occupy your time and destress.
10/11/2017 10:19:52 PM EDT
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Heres a test. Try some controlled drinking.
Have one drink a day for a week. Just one drink a day. No skipping a day then having two the next day.
If you make it through the week only having one drink a day, you probably don't have a problem. If after one drink you have to have another and can't stop, you might need some help.
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ya, i have tried that.. One drink is such a tease and goes down so good after a stressful days work.

But also, you never quantified what one drink was
10/11/2017 10:20:54 PM EDT
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i tell myself every morning that you (i) need to stop drinking every night.
But every day when i get home, i crave just one drink soooooo bad...
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How much are you drinking when you do drink?
10/11/2017 10:21:53 PM EDT
[#17]
Quit for 30 days, I did it in January.  The massive energy gain and better sleep are worth it.  After 30 figure out if you want to go back to feeling like shit
10/11/2017 10:22:09 PM EDT
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Yeah, you sound just like me. Drinking doesn't put me to sleep, it wakes me up. I can put down insane amounts of liquor and still function just fine. No slurring, no falling, no blackouts, no puking, etc. I never met a man who could out-drink me.

I take that as evidence that there is a gene for alcoholism, and I have it. One more reason to quit.
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When i am in the mood for it, which is almost always, there is not amount that can put me down.

There have been times where me and a buddy have burned through two large bottles of bourbon in a night and where still bull shitting when the sun came up.
10/11/2017 10:22:38 PM EDT
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If you can't see yourself going the rest of your life without having one drink, you're not ready to quit.

Drinking is causing you pain, or else you wouldn't have posted this. When it causes you enough pain, you'll be ready to quit. That's how the human mind works.

Some people can take a lot of pain. How hot does the stove have to get before you take your hand off?

I don't mean to preach at you. Preaching doesn't do shit. You'll quit when you're ready. I've been there, and I'm still there. Best of luck to you, buddy.
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how bad do you have to fuck up to have that absolutionist view?

backstory?
10/11/2017 10:23:11 PM EDT
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Heres a test. Try some controlled drinking.
Have one drink a day for a week. Just one drink a day. No skipping a day then having two the next day.
If you make it through the week only having one drink a day, you probably don't have a problem. If after one drink you have to have another and can't stop, you might need some help.
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Probably won't work because one drink makes it harder to stop than 0.  The fuck it meter starts to dance after the first couple sips.   Trust me.  I know this well.
10/11/2017 10:23:14 PM EDT
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Quit for 30 days, I did it in January.  The massive energy gain and better sleep are worth it.  After 30 figure out if you want to go back to feeling like shit
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when the time comes to have a drink in the afternoon, nothing makes me feel better than that first drink
10/11/2017 10:24:49 PM EDT
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its all dependent,

So far tonight i have had 2-10oz drinks of vodka over ice and 5 strong bourbons and cokes from a 20oz tumbler.
10/11/2017 10:25:03 PM EDT
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ya, i have tried that.. One drink is such a tease and goes down so good after a stressful days work.

But also, you never quantified what one drink was
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Heres a test. Try some controlled drinking.
Have one drink a day for a week. Just one drink a day. No skipping a day then having two the next day.
If you make it through the week only having one drink a day, you probably don't have a problem. If after one drink you have to have another and can't stop, you might need some help.
ya, i have tried that.. One drink is such a tease and goes down so good after a stressful days work.

But also, you never quantified what one drink was
Lol, I know first hand. I failed the test many times. I drank a 12 pack of beer every week night for years. A couple of cases on the weekend.
If you're serious, take the test. If you know you can't do it or spend all day thinking about that one drink, well, theres your answer.
19 years sober Dec.7.
10/11/2017 10:25:55 PM EDT
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how bad do you have to fuck up to have that absolutionist view?

backstory?
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i have a feeling me and this guy could hang out and have a few drinks over smoking some briskets one night
10/11/2017 10:26:16 PM EDT
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technically i do not feel like i get drunk, but i am sure that i get past the point of a legal limit.
I usually drink vodka on the rocks and go through a bottle every 5 days.
I dont tend to drink beer anymore as it bloats me way to bad.
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I go to an addiction recovery group, yes, its 12-step based.
There are various ones out there and just want to suggest that you try to go to a meeting. You will find people there with similar issues and no one is there to judge you. 
10/11/2017 10:26:29 PM EDT
[#26]
its easy man. just quit.
10/11/2017 10:27:30 PM EDT
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Lol, I know first hand. I failed the test many times. I drank a 12 pack of beer every week night for years. A couple of cases on the weekend.
If you're serious, take the test. If you know you can't do it or spend all day thinking about that one drink, well, theres your answer.
19 years sober Dec.7.
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thing is that i never do think about drinking during the day. Its just something that comes natural like the first cup of coffee every morning.
10/11/2017 10:28:39 PM EDT
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I go to an addiction recovery group, yes, its 12-step based.
There are various ones out there and just want to suggest that you try to go to a meeting. You will find people there with similar issues and no one is there to judge you. 
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but the first step is to realize that i have a problem.

And i am not 100% sure that i have one yet
10/11/2017 10:29:14 PM EDT
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Quit for 30 days, I did it in January.  The massive energy gain and better sleep are worth it.  After 30 figure out if you want to go back to feeling like shit
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After recently stopping for a few weeks, the changes were definitely noticeable. And that was just stopping my usual habit of having drinks on 2 or 3 nights per week. At 47 it doesn't take much to fuck up my next day. I'm not even talking hung over, just feeling tired and unmotivated.
10/11/2017 10:29:27 PM EDT
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i have a feeling me and this guy could hang out and have a few drinks over smoking some briskets one night
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how bad do you have to fuck up to have that absolutionist view?

backstory?
i have a feeling me and this guy could hang out and have a few drinks over smoking some briskets one night
not sure how i'd cook a brisket otherwise

zhukov doesn't believe me when i tell him the difference between his brisket and mine is that he's cooking his sober...
10/11/2017 10:30:18 PM EDT
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its easy man. just quit.
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If it was that easy this problem wouldn't exist.  Addicts become chemically dependent on alcohol.  It's not like choosing to have tacos for lunch instead of cheeseburgers.
10/11/2017 10:30:36 PM EDT
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not sure how i'd cook a brisket otherwise

zhukov doesn't believe me when i tell him the difference between his brisket and mine is that he's cooking his sober...
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my issue is that i use a green egg and its pretty much set and forget vs your pit style that makes you feed it wood all night.
10/11/2017 10:31:14 PM EDT
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its all dependent,
So far tonight i have had 2-10oz drinks of vodka over ice and 5 strong bourbons and cokes from a 20oz tumbler.
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Oh. 
Umm, if that is normal for you on a Wednesday night, and other nights is close to that amount, give or take a 2 oz. shot, I would say you have a drinking problem.
Not saying all 12-step recovery groups are for you, but its worth checking out.
10/11/2017 10:31:46 PM EDT
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My wife would have a couple of beers after work each day and a few more on the weekends. Then she was putting away a 6 pack a day at least with probably closer to 12 on weekend nights. Then it went to rum and coke. Until recently she was going through a 1.75L bottle of Bacardi every two days of so. She doesn't drink much now but hasn't quit completely. The only thing that has slowed her down is that she is too sick to drink like that now.

She is spending a second night in the ICU tonight. Was up there twice last week too. She has Cirrhosis now and is in liver failure. All the vomiting, diarrhea/incontinence , not being able to eat hardly anything, being too weak to get to the bathroom in time has really cut back on her drinking. She will be 46 in December. If she makes it to December. She has the fluid building up in her abdomen and lower legs now. Tuesday she had to have some fluid drained from her belly. They took 5.3 liters out. Her electrolyte levels are so low her heart could stop. That's why she is in the ICU again.  

It's not a pretty way to go. Once the liver is damaged it can't heal. Drinking to excess is damaging you liver and eventually it is nothing but scar tissue. She still thinks she isn't that bad and doesn't believe the doctors. She thinks she doesn't drink that much.

Stop now. If not for you, do it for your family. Worst conversation I have ever had was trying to explain to our 18yr old daughter last week that her mother is dying and might not make it to the end of this year.
10/11/2017 10:32:00 PM EDT
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If it was that easy this problem wouldn't exist.  Addicts become chemically dependent on alcohol.  It's not like choosing to have tacos for lunch instead of cheeseburgers.
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speaking of tacos....

so i did the keto diet a few months back and was able to drop 30lbs.

The issue is that i never actually quit drinking and would just do strait vodka or gin
10/11/2017 10:32:11 PM EDT
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my issue is that i use a green egg and its pretty much set and forget vs your pit style that makes you feed it wood all night.
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a green fuckin egg?

shit, i really ought not be here enabling you, you DO have a problem!
10/11/2017 10:33:09 PM EDT
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thing is that i never do think about drinking during the day. Its just something that comes natural like the first cup of coffee every morning.
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Lol, I know first hand. I failed the test many times. I drank a 12 pack of beer every week night for years. A couple of cases on the weekend.
If you're serious, take the test. If you know you can't do it or spend all day thinking about that one drink, well, theres your answer.
19 years sober Dec.7.
thing is that i never do think about drinking during the day. Its just something that comes natural like the first cup of coffee every morning.
Most normal drinkers don't wonder if they're drinking too much. The fact that your wife mentions it is a clue also.
I wish you luck.
Feel free to IM me.
10/11/2017 10:33:18 PM EDT
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but the first step is to realize that i have a problem.
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Okay. 
I realized I had an problem when I couldn't stop when I wanted to. I was not in control.
10/11/2017 10:33:49 PM EDT
[#39]
Look up the average life expectancy of a male alcoholic, then wonder if they drank less than you.  If your comfortable with an early grave drink on.   
   As I type this I'm sipping on a 16oz Coors light.  
10/11/2017 10:34:07 PM EDT
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My wife would have a couple of beers after work each day and a few more on the weekends. Then she was putting away a 6 pack a day at least with probably closer to 12 on weekend nights. Then it went to rum and coke. Until recently she was going through a 1.75L bottle of Bacardi every two days of so. She doesn't drink much now but hasn't quit completely. The only thing that has slowed her down is that she is too sick to drink like that now.

She is spending a second night in the ICU tonight. Was up there twice last week too. She has Cirrhosis now and is in liver failure. All the vomiting, diarrhea/incontinence , not being able to eat hardly anything, being too weak to get to the bathroom in time has really cut back on her drinking. She will be 46 in December. If she makes it to December. She has the fluid building up in her abdomen and lower legs now. Tuesday she had to have some fluid drained from her belly. They took 5.3 liters out. Her electrolyte levels are so low her heart could stop. That's why she is in the ICU again.  

It's not a pretty way to go. Once the liver is damaged it can't heal. Drinking to excess is damaging you liver and eventually it is nothing but scar tissue. She still thinks she isn't that bad and doesn't believe the doctors. She thinks she doesn't drink that much.

Stop now. If not for you, do it for your family. Worst conversation I have ever had was trying to explain to our 18yr old daughter last week that her mother is dying and might not make it to the end of this year.
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i dont have words
10/11/2017 10:35:20 PM EDT
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Okay. 
I realized I had an problem when I couldn't stop when I wanted to. I was not in control.
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but i dont want to stop.... it taste to damn good
10/11/2017 10:36:37 PM EDT
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Look up the average life expectancy of a male alcoholic, then wonder if they drank less than you.  If your comfortable with an early grave drink on.   
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but i am not convinced that i am an alcoholic yet......

a few drinks in the afternoon is not as bad as having to sneak drinks in the morning or at lunch because i have to have it.
10/11/2017 10:36:46 PM EDT
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I won't tell you that you're an alcoholic, but I am.

I'm currently drunk.

I told myself at 8am that I'd not drink tonight.

This is a morningly occurrence.
10/11/2017 10:38:04 PM EDT
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Used to. Now I just keep busy. I sleep much better and am more productive during the day.
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Yup...
10/11/2017 10:40:19 PM EDT
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A medical professional once told me that a Cirrhosis case was the worst death they had ever seen.
10/11/2017 10:40:52 PM EDT
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but i dont want to stop.... it taste to damn good
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Okay. This is just another GD "Hey look at me thread!!111"
Heres the answer you want. Keep drinking! You're fine! Fuck all the haters that have written serious responses to your thread! They're just party poopers and spoiling your fun.
You should double your intake to "show them"
10/11/2017 10:41:43 PM EDT
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I won't tell you that you're an alcoholic, but I am.

I'm currently drunk.

I told myself at 8am that I'd not drink tonight.

This is a morningly occurrence.
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But we still love you and are here for you bud 
10/11/2017 10:42:32 PM EDT
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technically i do not feel like i get drunk, but i am sure that i get past the point of a legal limit.

I usually drink vodka on the rocks and go through a bottle every 5 days.

I dont tend to drink beer anymore as it bloats me way to bad.
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Are you having just one drink or just opening the door to getting drunk every night?

Depending on your answer, you might have a problem.
technically i do not feel like i get drunk, but i am sure that i get past the point of a legal limit.

I usually drink vodka on the rocks and go through a bottle every 5 days.

I dont tend to drink beer anymore as it bloats me way to bad.
Do you drink more on weekends?
10/11/2017 10:43:22 PM EDT
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Okay. This is just another GD "Hey look at me thread!!111"
Heres the answer you want. Keep drinking! You're fine! Fuck all the haters that have written serious responses to your thread! They're just party poopers and spoiling your fun.
You should double your intake to "show them"
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This.
10/11/2017 10:44:10 PM EDT
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how bad do you have to fuck up to have that absolutionist view?

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Absolutionist? Is that even a word?

I have a tendency towards compulsion. All or nothing. I wish I could change that, but I can't. All I can do is recognize it and adapt.

I quit drinking and funneled my compulsion into shooting, boxing, MMA, and lifting heavy. I'm pretty fucking happy with the results.

Maybe some day I'll learn a way to overcome that compulsion.  In the meantime, I'll just keep channeling it into positive things and away from negative things.

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