Posted: 2/13/2003 3:12:14 PM EDT
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Does the Santose style of sighting in work with a .223 mini 14 like it does with an AR-15? TIA RIch Orlando,fl |
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no. with the mini it is as follows: aim...shoot...adjust sights to point of impact. aim...shoot...adjust sights to point of impact. aim...shoot...adjust sights to point of impact. aim...shoot...adjust sights to point of impact. aim...shoot...adjust sights to point of impact. aim...shoot...adjust sights to point of impact. aim...shoot...adjust sights to point of impact. aim...shoot...adjust sights to point of impact. repeat untill you wise up and sell the rifle. j/k |
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Quoted: I own a K-Mini-14GB I have NEVER...repeat NEVER had any problems whatsoever. Accuracy has been great. Define accuracy. [:D] (snip)Have any of you gentlemen actually owned a Mini-14? Borrowed my brother's Mini-30 for a few days once, if that counts. I've fired AKs and they are fairly accurate. This Mini-30 uses the same round but doesn't shoot anywhere near as tight groups. It was an exercise in futility getting it to shoot at anything with accuracy past fifty yards. For shooting coyotes, gophers or wild dogs at 20-50 yds, it's OK. But then again- it's not an AR15. You get what you pay for when it comes to guns. |
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Ungwaha, I’m sorry people can’t answer your question seriously. Usually this is a good place to get information. The Mini wasn’t designed with the tolerances necessary to be a tack driver. Some people expect it do perform at a level for which it wasn’t designed. Most people find replacing the stock with a tighter fitting after market one, like a Choate, accuracy improves greatly. I have found this true. My Mini will hold around 2” groups at 100 yards off a rest. It is a fun plinking gun. It will go BANG every time. Minis tend to not be ammo picky, in part because of their larger chamber. It’s funny how many people beat up the Mini for not being as accurate as most ARs, but you rarely see these guys on the range shooting their ARs like bench rest guns trying to get MOA accuracy. I don’t have an answer for your question. Maybe someone who does can get this thread back on course. |
| I set mine up this way. It shoots dead on at 25 yards and should still shoot minute of man at 200. It's not ever going to be a tack driver but used within it's limitations they are good useful guns. Besides if Bob the Nailer prefers them what more can you say?[:)] |
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95thFoot...If you were useing Russian or ChiCom ammo then thats your problem. Ruger Mini's were rated to use American brass cassed ammo which has a slightly different diameter then the Com stuff. If you read the manual it will tell you to only use American ammo. 2nd..........A Mini 14 is just as accurate as any SKS, AK I've seen. both are utility weapons only rated for up to 300 yards and average accuracy of about 2 MOA. Besides you can carry a Mini 14 in your car without the LEO's and Soccer Moms getting up set because its just a "Hunting" rifle, while AK's are the dreaded "Assault" weapons. DA |
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BookHound, This is the GD board, where we like to have fun. There are boards where a firearms type of question would be better asked. The GD board of the AR15.com forum boards is as what beanie babies and beef jerky is to gun shows. [bd] Ungwaha should have asked this question in the Competition Shooting & the Accurate AR forum [url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/forum.html?b=1&f=10[/url] or in the Precision Rifles forum [url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/forum.html?b=6&f=5[/url] Or even in the GENERAL FIREARMS DISCUSSION forum [url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/forum.html?b=6&f=2[/url] Or he could have asked Chuck Santose himself - Lt. Colonel Chuck Santose [email][email protected][/email] I hope this helps you to help your friend Ungwaha. Now where was I....Oh yea, your best bet to find out how accurate the Mini-14 is you would need to use the same target that the shotgun guys use to pattern their shotguns...... Quoted: Ungwaha, I’m sorry people can’t answer your question seriously. Usually this is a good place to get information. |
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Quoted: Quoted: I have never understood what a "plinking gun" is. Something to make noise on the 4th of July maybe? According to Webster's Dictionary it means the following: 2 : to shoot at random targets in an informal and noncompetitive manner That sounds like the mini 14 and mini 30 rifles I have been around. "Shoot at". [green]But, come to think of it, the guys with the minis can't shoot for crap anyway. [/green] |
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no, i've never owned a mini 30 or 14. i'm not that hard up for a rifle. but i have shot several of each over the years, and yes, i've 'zero'd' them. if anyone can point out another popular rifle with the incidence of wandering zero and shot stringing as the ruger mini series, i'ld like to hear about it (ruger 10-22 first shot flyers not included). |
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I have a mini 30 that I bought years ago hoping it would be a less expensive AR or AK. Bad move on my part (although I got a good deal on it?) Anyhow I had a hell of time with it keeping a solid zero, and scoping it was just not a solution. I have learned that it is not as accurate a rifle out to 100yds and further like an AR can be. In regards to ammo, do not feed a mini 30 Russian ammo, it will eventually not work. US ammo is fine but Ruskie stuff will cause all kinds of headaches. My buddy is a plinker with a mini 14 and that's all he does, shoot lots of rounds downrange at the general area of the target. I prefer accuracy myself which is why I saved up and bought an AR. He thought that I was going to an extreme but I just like to hit the target tha I aim at. I think the mini rifles have their purposes, but they cannot be compared to the quality and accuracy of an AR anyday. |
| I owned one until I could afford an AR. It was the SS version with the original style sights, not the Ranch model. It had a 4x scope. The first time I took it to the range, I was in shock. Shoot, adjust, shoot, adjust....WTF..? I thought the scope was screwed up. Then, I came to the realization that 4"-6" [s]patterns[/s] groups, was as good as it was going to get. I gave up, sighted it in at 50 yards, and sold it a year later. I don't understand why Ruger doesn't make some design changes to that gun. Some may argue about practical accuracy, or that it's okay for a plinker, but I disagree. |
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Campybob, I was going to correct your first post procedure, but I see that USNJoe already did (although I was going to recommend a 4'x8', but a barn door will work). I've got a Mini-30 and 5 AR's. I never shoot the Mini and I don't ever leave the AR's at home. 'Nuff said. Merlin |
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Don't worry about it, once you dig though 20 smart-assed answers from the GD community you will get an answer....[bd] Quoted: Thanks guys and I should looked further for the right area of the site to post the question. I thought that since it was a mini-14 that the question should go in the GERNEAL area. My Bad won't happen again. Rich Orlando,FL ps i am goning to the shot show |