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7/17/2004 3:49:33 PM EDT
i just started jogging a bit to get my mind off things and i was wondering how you guys breath while you do it?  deep breaths?  rythms?  i'm doing okay but i have to stop and rest every couple of blocks.  i won't be satisfied until i can go my route without slowing down and walking for a while.

i'm not fat, just not with the program.  6ft tall, 207lbs.
7/17/2004 3:54:29 PM EDT
[#1]
I catch myself doing it two ways..

a. ignore it (just let my body breathe on it's own)
b. set up some sort of rythem ( step- step - breathe - step....)

but mostly I just focus on running and let my body do the rest.
7/17/2004 3:54:47 PM EDT
[#2]
I am just an average joe so take what I say with a grain of salt. I breath with a rhythm and never stopped throughtout my runs. Perhaps you would be better served asking this on a dedicated runners forum.
7/17/2004 3:56:46 PM EDT
[#3]

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Perhaps you would be better served asking this on a dedicated runners forum.



lots of military dudes here, i hear they run a lot.
7/17/2004 4:00:17 PM EDT
[#4]
As long as you're moving for 45 min or so, walking a bit is ok during the first couple of weeks.  It's really not possible to maintain a jogging pace for an extended period of time without training for it.  Also, make sure you're pacing yourself - if you're pooping out in a couple of blocks, you're going too fast.
7/17/2004 4:00:47 PM EDT
[#5]
You're just outta shape. Stick with it and you'll do fine.
Work on your form while running, deep, even breaths work best IMO. Stretching will help with your run some also. Usually best to stretch after a brief, easy warm-up.
7/17/2004 4:03:56 PM EDT
[#6]
After 20+ years, I still sing cadences in my head. It helps you keep a steady pace, control breathing and occupy your mind.
7/17/2004 4:04:08 PM EDT
[#7]

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Perhaps you would be better served asking this on a dedicated runners forum.



lots of military dudes here, i hear they run a lot.



Sorry, I was under the impression that we were all just overweight armchair commandos on this forum. Or so I have been told
7/17/2004 4:05:33 PM EDT
[#8]
After 20+ years, I still sing cadences in my head. It helps you keep a steady pace, control breathing and occupy your mind. If you don't know any, there are sources on line that sell military running cadences on CD and cassette.
7/17/2004 4:05:41 PM EDT
[#9]
i'm stretching before i go..i think i made it 3 blocks last night before i had to walk.  i'm going about a mile each way.  i walk the dog when i get back..taper myself off instead of just jumping in the shower.  i'm carrying a bottle of water while i'm out too.  not drinking too much but it's there if i need it.  

thanks.
7/17/2004 4:07:32 PM EDT
[#10]
The first several runs suck if haven't run for a while.  After that your heart and lungs get used to it very quickly!  Your body will go naturally into a rhythm breathing wise so don't sweat it!  Since your starting out, do 2 miles or a little more if itsn't a problem, skip a day so your muscles can do a little recovery (walk), then run again.  Every week or two crank up the distance a notch,  good luck!
7/17/2004 4:13:25 PM EDT
[#11]
Yeah that first time out can really suck. But your body does get used to it and you will be able to go longer and faster. A bit of advice, if you are running on asphalt or concrete, get GOOD running shoes. Again, get GOOD running shoes. You are better off running on dirt trails as it does not do as much damage to your knees. Oh and your gonna love the 'runners high'.
7/17/2004 7:03:59 PM EDT
[#12]
Ditto on the shoes.  You would be very well served to go to one of those sports shoe stores that have this pressure pad hooked up to a computer.  It will measure how much your feet pronate, and there is usually a handy guide which will recommend shoes that have the appropriate support in the appropriate places.  $200 shoes won't help if they aren't right for your feet.

As far as breathing goes, just make sure you aren't panting like a dog.  It won't hurt you, it wastes energy.
7/17/2004 7:07:07 PM EDT
[#13]
I get in my pick up light up a  Marlboro and go for a drive myself
7/17/2004 7:12:26 PM EDT
[#14]
I've started running again last year. Still hate. Hated running since I can remember.

Anyway. The way I was taught is to breath in thru the nose and out to the mouth. What most have said here is true. Its all about building back your stamina. Today you are stopping every two blocks, in about a week it may be every 3blks., and so on. If you started running 3X a week. Keep that up. Once you get into a habit of skipping you start getting more lazy. After 3 mos or so, your body will crave that exercise.
7/17/2004 7:14:12 PM EDT
[#15]
Rythm.  Two exhales and then an inhale.  I get in a rythm and I forget about the torture.
7/17/2004 8:04:51 PM EDT
[#16]
thanks again guys.  i jogged the mile nonstop tonight.  had to slow down and walk on the way back though.  took me about 20min to do 2 miles.  not bad IMO.  think i'll take a break as my leg muscles are pretty sore.  i got a dog so i'll just walk her tomorrow.

dpmmn, i tried going for a drive, it doesn't help.  i started crying about the womenz, it's pretty pathetic.
7/17/2004 8:14:15 PM EDT
[#17]
Ran in the distance track teams in high school, ran in the Marines and years after.

Used to get in a good rhythm, inhaling over two steps, exhaling over two steps. Real easy.

I'd also recommend that if you are getting only three blocks before you have to stop, that you either begin with longer fast WALKS for a couple weeks, or a slower running pace.
Run-Walk-Jog is another way to cover the most ground the fastest and is also a good way to get yourself started on a running regimen. By deliberately doing it that way, some people can avoid psyching themselves out by getting despondent about HAVING to walk to soon. Deliberately make it a part of your plan.
7/18/2004 4:26:33 AM EDT
[#18]
Congratulations!  ... and I second the GOOD shoes suggestion. I've had luck with New Balance. They make a very wide variety of types, $s, and sizes, and I'm lucky to have an excellent running shoe shop nearby. Check out local races and who (which shop) is sponsoring them. That will be the place to give your business to and get advice/fitting from.  Even the best shoes wont last 500 miles and some wont last 300. You'll see the difference when you buy your new 2nd pair of what you were wearing.
Two more things ... Check out the running magazines for the occasional "speed" workout. Your times and stamina will improve if you vary your training and it's interesting, also.  And lastly...you have already seen improvement and you'll see even more , but you wont get better EVERY run. So go easy on yourself and listen to what your feet/body is telling you. Didn't mean to come off sounding so "zen"ish.  Enjoy    and   Stay safe
7/18/2004 5:08:24 AM EDT
[#19]
Im a jogger..... Get the shoes like eveybody else has said. I run in New Balances.  $50-$100 , if on sale or not. Then Strecht very well before jogging. I do a rep of jumping jacks before I start running to get my sweat and  heart rate up alittle before I start out. Drink water while you are doing your strecthing. I run with the rythem of  two short  IN IN , and a longer out.   IN IN , OUT .. I also sing alittle cadances through my head while running to take my mind off running. It is harder to run all by your self than it is with a group.Say formation. Weather it's a mental thing or not,.The group run just seems to pull you  . Yopu stamana will pick up. Spread your runs to every other day for awhile till you feel better .Unless your young and have that extra kick of energy. Im 36 and it takes me longer to regroup...... LOL. I also run while haveing a piece of gum in my mouth. Keeps my mouth and throat moist.It works.   . Good luck WarDawg
7/18/2004 5:54:46 AM EDT
[#20]
  I'm 57 and have been running since 1976. No matter the pace, I've always found a rythm of inhaling when the left foot (or right if you prefer) hits the ground works for me. I'm not anal about it, it just seems to work out that way.
  The first 5-8 minutes of every run are never fun for me. The surroundings seem to make a big difference - circular tracks are mind-numbing, streets are too hard on the knees and traffic can get scary, so most of my runs are in the woods anymore.
  Learning / adapting to the best time of day - morning/afternoon/evening makes a difference. Overall, it's easier if you've got a "solitary man" mindset about exercise, pain, discomfort, etc.  
  Good luck.
7/25/2004 8:01:13 PM EDT
[#21]
weird question but,  since i started jogging i'm getting zits all over my body.  wtf?  i shower everyday, sometimes twice.  i never had acne as a teen, i'm not getting them on my face either..forehead, back, neck legs..   not too comfortable.
7/26/2004 1:53:40 PM EDT
[#22]
I noticed that you said you have women problems. I know how stressful that
can be. I doubt if the jogging is causing the break out. More than likely
the stress of the situation you are in. Hang in there and keep up the jogging
it will help elevate your mood. Sometimes I think God put women on this
earth to torment us. hinking.gif
7/26/2004 2:38:26 PM EDT
[#23]
I am about 6'3", 240 and run 4-5 times a week, usually 2-3 miles sometimes 4.  Uncle Sam likes me better when I run and I like to be able to get out of my own way,,so I run.

Here are a few things I have noticed in the last 22 years of jogging and being a big guy.  Amen to the buy good shoes, good shoes are not 200 dollars, they are shoes that offer good support and fit well.  I find a type that work and replace them regularly.  I breathe two exhales for one inhale on a cadence to when my left foot hits the ground,,it just sort of worked out that way over the years.

If you are just starting to jog, run any pace for three minutes (3) then walk a minute and let your heart rate ease for a minute then start again.  Do this a few times on a few runs, then go for a run at a slow pace for 8-10 minutes.  Your heart and lungs may be getting that initial shock from running or exertion and having a hard time adjusting, they need a little time to adapt.

I have some friends that run miles and miles, they seem to agree that running for time, not distance is better for improving your running.  Work on improving your form and getting the number of minutes of exercise you want, the distance will come.  

On a lighter note, dont buy those little running shorts, the rest of us will thank you.
7/26/2004 3:04:13 PM EDT
[#24]

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On a lighter note, dont buy those little running shorts, the rest of us will thank you.



trust me i won't be wearing those.  i don't even like having my shirt off in public.
i run late at night anyway so i usually have the local trails all to myself.