Posted: 2/18/2008 5:32:03 PM EDT
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I am looking to stock up on 500 surplus rounds of .308. is pakistani surplus ammo any good? how about serbian? I hear lithuanian is really good, and so is the australian, is this correct? I hear the south african is only so-so. so what say you hive mind, whats teh best .308 surplus ammo |
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Your choice basically boils down to what you can actually find for sale. Aussi Port HP [Hirtenburger] Dag Men SA all good surp ammo. Some is more accurate but all works perfectly fine. If your rifle can't runs SA, it's your particular rifle or the fluted chamber in some makes. Runs great in M1As and FALs. Indian, SOME is fine, the older 70s stuff works perfectly fine, the 80s stuff Bleh. Lithie don't know, never fired it personally same for serbian stuff. |
is that in order of best to worst? |
where is federal or winchester 110$/200 like lithuanian and australian? better yet where is it 60$/140 like SA isnt australian and lithuanian both reloadable? I know they are brass cassed and boxer primed |
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For all the complaints about SA, there are only a few rifles that have a problem with it. Fluted chamber rifles and seems to be some 308 ARs. After running a couple K of it with no issues thru a Garand, M1As, and FALs I have to say that I place more blame on the rifles or the import builders then the ammo. Old Painless did a test on accuracy of Surp 7.62x51, the SA did perfectly fine for what it is. It is not $1.00 a round match ammo but it will go bang every time in a maintained rifle. It is also one of the few that is copper jacketed lead core with no steel in it, much of the other stuff is steel jacketed with a copper coating. |
really? where is this test, I owuld love to see it. |
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You'll probably get a lot better info in the ammo forum. www.ar15.com/forums/forum.html?b=3&f=16 |
Igman and Prvi Partizan are not the same. I haven't shot the Igman, but have heard good things about it. Prvi is very good ammo, IMO (Wolf Performance Gold is actually reboxed Prvi). I've had good luck with the SA stuff too. My PTR91 eats it all up. It likes Silver Bear too. |
isnt that mostly for 5.56? |
The last time I looked Federal and Winchester both were around $140 for 200. I also looked at surplus and it was a little higher than that. Prices may have come back down a little since then? Either way, $.42-$.55 a shot is ridiculous for |
where can you get federal for 140$/200? that sounds pretty good. |
Same here. I've had zero problems with SA ammo in my PTR-91. Glad I still have about 2000 rounds from before the price went up. |
Then I'd go to Radway Green, IMI next if you can find it, then Aussie and SA. There was one batch of ammo, I forget where from, the case would rupture about 3%-4% of the time. The crazy thing was, its accuracy from the non-rupturing ammo was quite good! |
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I've never shot Hirtenberger or Aussie, and probably couldn't afford them if I could find some. I bought a buttload of SA when it was 24.00/BP and lower. If I'd only known............ Anyway, it works fine in my FAL. I've shot a few boxes of Pak, and it did ok as well. I've reloaded some for the FAL. 150 grain boattails. I tried to keep them around 2500fps, IIRC. I've never shot any commercial .308 in it. I think I read some of the commercial ammo can be problematic because of the pressure curve. You might want to ask in the FAL forum here or at FALFILES. |
| I have several hundred rounds of the 1975 manufacture Paki and it all does go bang but it is not very accurate. Runs ok in my M1A's but not so good in my buddies DPMS .308. It's ok for blasting. I paid $119 plus tax for 400rnds. The shop has several ammo cans of this stuff left but considering the poor accuracy I would never buy it again. |
That batch might have been from Brazil...CBC marked I think. There was a recall on that stuff. I had maybe 100 rds., so instead of sending it back, I just trashed it. FWIW. dvo |
Yep, it was CBC from the early to mid 80's. Had one rupture into the extractor groove and it blew off the extractor of my M1A. One was enough. No damage to the bolt or rifle amazingly enough. The rest of the CBC was returned. To the optimists that expect the halcyon days of 7.62 NATO for less than .40 cents a round to return - ask the Easter bunny to bring some because that is probably the only way you will get it that cheap again. |
Yeah same here. When SA got above $24/bp I said "that's too expensive, no more SA .308 for me!" Boy was I wrong.  Pricing around here is $65+ per BP, if you can find it. Lucky for me I got around 7k before I stopped buying.
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