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2/11/2011 8:25:23 AM EDT
Are union dues taken out of your pay before you get your pay check?



If so we need someone to propose a law they can not be withheld then watch them shrivel up.
2/11/2011 8:26:39 AM EDT
[#1]
Do it.
2/11/2011 8:26:57 AM EDT
[#2]
This is an excellent idea for a topic. This has never been discussed on ARFcom before. I predict this will end well.
2/11/2011 8:29:54 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
Are union dues taken out of your pay before you get your pay check?

If so we need someone to propose a law they can not be withheld then watch them shrivel up.


You can opt not to have them deducted unless otherwise stipulated
in the CBA, but you will still owe them.

You're in KS which is a right to work state.  It doesn't matter.  You can
work in a union shop and not be a member of the union at all.

Rather than proposing a law about dues, the better way to go is to
push "right to work" legislation.
2/11/2011 10:28:25 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Are union dues taken out of your pay before you get your pay check?

If so we need someone to propose a law they can not be withheld then watch them shrivel up.


You can opt not to have them deducted unless otherwise stipulated
in the CBA, but you will still owe them.

You're in KS which is a right to work state.  It doesn't matter.  You can
work in a union shop and not be a member of the union at all.

Rather than proposing a law about dues, the better way to go is to
push "right to work" legislation.


Indiana is trying to push to a right to work environment and the unions are going batshit crazy over it.  I think it's pretty funny, but the propaganda they use on the radio is atrocious.
2/11/2011 10:57:15 AM EDT
[#5]
If they had to collect the dues themselves how many people would pay them very few.  thus starving them.



2/11/2011 11:00:09 AM EDT
[#6]
Isnt the method of paying dues a part of the CBA?  Wouldn't your proposal require the government involving itself in the negotiation of a private contract?
2/11/2011 3:46:19 PM EDT
[#7]
In the unions I've been in the first form you fill out at the new job human resources section is a form authorizing a automatic deduction/ transfer for union dues from your pay check.....

You can request/apply to exempt $ for politics but they make it a very hard annual process and a PIA and they can arbitrarily deny for any reason.
2/11/2011 6:13:51 PM EDT
[#8]
I pay  Monthly Dues of $23.00 and on top of that they take Dues Check Off out 3.5% last year I paid almost $3400.00
Fucking Thieves
2/11/2011 6:15:10 PM EDT
[#9]
I pay  Monthly Dues of $23.00 and on top of that they take Dues Check Off out 3.5% and Then something called Market Recovery do not know how much last year I paid almost $3400.00 you do the math
Fucking Thieves
2/11/2011 6:23:26 PM EDT
[#10]
ted wag
2/11/2011 6:24:49 PM EDT
[#11]



Quoted:



Quoted:

Are union dues taken out of your pay before you get your pay check?



If so we need someone to propose a law they can not be withheld then watch them shrivel up.




You can opt not to have them deducted unless otherwise stipulated

in the CBA, but you will still owe them.



You're in KS which is a right to work state.  It doesn't matter.  You can

work in a union shop and not be a member of the union at all.



Rather than proposing a law about dues, the better way to go is to

push "right to work" legislation.


+1



 
2/11/2011 11:07:17 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
I pay  Monthly Dues of $23.00 and on top of that they take Dues Check Off out 3.5% last year I paid almost $3400.00
Fucking Thieves


You can deduct that on your taxes dude.......
2/11/2011 11:12:13 PM EDT
[#13]
When we had the union. (as I understand this was put into place by the contract)

The employees were paid their weekly paycheck and then they had to pay their union dues.  Well, the employees were not paying the union dues like they should have.  The union rep. was getting pissed about it.  We had to fire a couple dumb asses for tearin shit up and sleeping on the job.  Finally, the union rep gave up and that was the end of it.

2/11/2011 11:57:05 PM EDT
[#14]
Donald Trump has done well for himself with the unions.........please feel free to discuss.........
2/12/2011 12:08:31 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Are union dues taken out of your pay before you get your pay check?

If so we need someone to propose a law they can not be withheld then watch them shrivel up.


You can opt not to have them deducted unless otherwise stipulated
in the CBA, but you will still owe them.

You're in KS which is a right to work state.  It doesn't matter.  You can
work in a union shop and not be a member of the union at all.

Rather than proposing a law about dues, the better way to go is to
push "right to work" legislation.


Doesn't surprise me that IN is trying to do it.  I lived there and the people
there are far more free minded than most of the closed shop states.
OK is the last state to overthrow the closed shop status, and they've
done just fine.  Of course the union is going crazy.  RTW is like holy
water to a vampire to them.
Indiana is trying to push to a right to work environment and the unions are going batshit crazy over it.  I think it's pretty funny, but the propaganda they use on the radio is atrocious.


2/12/2011 12:27:52 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
I pay  Monthly Dues of $23.00 and on top of that they take Dues Check Off out 3.5% last year I paid almost $3400.00
Fucking Thieves


2/12/2011 12:33:22 AM EDT
[#17]
Now if you made $120 a hr/ and paid $60 a Mo. plus dues check off..........would you complain.............?
2/12/2011 1:08:39 AM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
I pay  Monthly Dues of $23.00 and on top of that they take Dues Check Off out 3.5% last year I paid almost $3400.00
Fucking Thieves


Too bad that money isn't going into a $401K every year for you.
What exactly did they provid for you and your family for that money?
2/12/2011 1:13:17 AM EDT
[#19]



Quoted:



Quoted:

I pay  Monthly Dues of $23.00 and on top of that they take Dues Check Off out 3.5% last year I paid almost $3400.00

Fucking Thieves




You can deduct that on your taxes dude.......



Oh boy a deduction worth maybe $200 (if you even itemize) vs being fucked out of several K?  Great deal.  



 
2/12/2011 1:33:46 AM EDT
[#20]
Not only taken out but here in PRNY they are MANDATORILY taken out even if you chose not to join.
2/12/2011 7:38:59 AM EDT
[#21]
Mine are taken out automatically. Don't mind though because I would never work in LE in NYC without a union.
2/12/2011 7:45:02 AM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Quoted:
I pay  Monthly Dues of $23.00 and on top of that they take Dues Check Off out 3.5% last year I paid almost $3400.00
Fucking Thieves


You can deduct that on your taxes dude.......

Oh boy a deduction worth maybe $200 (if you even itemize) vs being fucked out of several K?  Great deal.  
 


Let me put it to you this way....

In the trades I don't care how good you think you are, you could be the biggest and baddest mechanic/journeyman out there, super hero fix everything status, yet you will still not earn as much hourly as a union journeyman, even with union dues paid out.

So, as a union journeyman you are at the top of the food chain. You will be paid much better than any non union mechanic, even including dues.

Your benefits will trump any non union shop also.
2/13/2011 7:32:10 AM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I pay  Monthly Dues of $23.00 and on top of that they take Dues Check Off out 3.5% last year I paid almost $3400.00
Fucking Thieves

You can deduct that on your taxes dude.......

Oh boy a deduction worth maybe $200 (if you even itemize) vs being fucked out of several K?  Great deal.  
 

Let me put it to you this way....
In the trades I don't care how good you think you are, you could be the biggest and baddest mechanic/journeyman out there, super hero fix everything status, yet you will still not earn as much hourly as a union journeyman, even with union dues paid out.
So, as a union journeyman you are at the top of the food chain. You will be paid much better than any non union mechanic, even including dues.
Your benefits will trump any non union shop also.

That's how it is here for my friends in the trade unions.
2/13/2011 7:39:37 AM EDT
[#24]
or...you could simply just not join a union........And NEVER have to worry about Dues.
2/13/2011 11:51:59 AM EDT
[#25]



Quoted:


or...you could simply just not join a union........And NEVER have to worry about Dues.


And get paid less for the same work...







 
2/13/2011 11:52:49 AM EDT
[#26]
Where I work, they take the dues even if you're not a member
2/13/2011 1:04:54 PM EDT
[#27]
Ours are paid at the monthly meeting
2/13/2011 1:10:28 PM EDT
[#28]
I worked in a right to work state but my former company, American Airlines, operated inside FL as a closed shop, in other words you did not join the Teamsters you did not work
2/13/2011 1:17:05 PM EDT
[#29]



Quoted:


Are union dues taken out of your pay before you get your pay check?



If so we need someone to propose a law they can not be withheld then watch them shrivel up.


I would like to see this implemented with taxes. Then people might realize how much of their check goes to the GOV as it stands most people only know what the take home is even though it breaks down what goes to the government automatically.