There is so much BS out there I have grave doubts anyone is telling the truth anymore. One person makes up shit and within hours it has become Super shit. Trump and his pimp squads have pushed the narrative but no one can produce incontrovertible proof. Most of is the Dominion fiasco. Did US military forces assault a Dominion office in Germany? No. Did the out-of-court settlement with Fox prove anything? Obviously, it all depends on who you want to believe not where the truth is.
Was the voter fraud? yes. Was there vote tampering? Yes, there are court convictions on both counts. Was it done on a monstrously grand scale capable of tipping the election? There is a shit ton of innuendo, rabbit trails, and fiction no one can prove jack. Worse, neither side has an ounce of credibility. There is no lie many would not tell. The threads on COVID and Ukraine prove the corruption on GD is a reflection of our nation as a whole. Many here do no fact-checking of any kind. You can not have an honest discussion without it.