[ARCHIVED THREAD] - your raid response strategy (Page 1 of 3)
Posted: 3/27/2015 6:33:14 PM EDT
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I've seen a number of arfcom tough guys, when talking about the wrongful or unjustified police raids, say that anybody breaking into their house in the dead of night is going to get shot at. Is that really wise? Watcha gonna do when they come for you? I'll tell you this, if you don't lie down like a good dog, your gonna get shot in the face, and your family won't be able to collect a dime no matter what your case is like. You fight The Man when he's going on one of his fishing expeditions public safety raids, you're going to pay the full cost, including your life. Column is from Washington Post.
Special shout-out to Bama-Shooter who despises this columnist, but most of what Balko writes for the Post is pretty solid. |
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I've seen a number of arfcom tough guys, when talking about the wrongful or unjustified police raids, say that anybody breaking into their house in the dead of night is going to get shot at. Is that really wise? Watcha gonna do when they come for you? I'll tell you this, if you don't lie down like a good dog, your gonna get shot in the face, and your family won't be able to collect a dime no matter what your case is like. You fight The Man when he's going on one of his fishing expeditions public safety raids, you're going to pay the full cost, including your life. Column is from Washington Post. Special shout-out to Bama-Shooter who despises this columnist, but most of what Balko writes for the Post is pretty solid. OK. |
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Quoted: I've seen a number of arfcom tough guys, when talking about the wrongful or unjustified police raids, say that anybody breaking into their house in the dead of night is going to get shot at. Is that really wise? Watcha gonna do when they come for you? I'll tell you this, if you don't lie down like a good dog, your gonna get shot in the face, and your family won't be able to collect a dime no matter what your case is like. You fight The Man when he's going on one of his fishing expeditions public safety raids, you're going to pay the full cost, including your life. Column is from Washington Post. Special shout-out to Bama-Shooter who despises this columnist, but most of what Balko writes for the Post is pretty solid. Bless your heart. |
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Well my cat managed to bust open my bedroom door the other night by running into it and I didn't crack an eye.
edit: oh we're talking about the popo here... um well, if they're kicking in my door for something, I'd just sit on the couch and do as they tell me. Guns out mean my ass is under arrest, at least until they figure out that I'm not the guy their looking for. |
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If I knew for a fact it was the police breaking into my house, I'd lie my gun down and take my chances.
Problem is its dark, you're disoriented, you are not expecting the police, and its something you need to decide RFN. You likely may not know it is the police until its too late. |
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Quoted: I have to have a door, otherwise no one would get in, and my Minotaur would starve. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I live in a labyrinth. I don't worry about this shit. I have to have a door, otherwise no one would get in, and my Minotaur would starve. |
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Quoted: If I knew for a fact it was the police breaking into my house, I'd lie my gun down and take my chances. Problem is its dark, you're disoriented, you are not expecting the police, and its something you need to decide RFN. You likely may not know it is the police until its too late. |
| not trying to sound like a badass but i live alone and have no kids. if im home and you kick my door in its gonna be bad for all involved. theres always ars out of the safe when im home. one is next to my bed, one leaning against my couch and my g19 is always on me. my pc and war belt are four feet from my bed and i have a secure choke point where i would be behind my open safe door. i live on two pretty private acres, last house on a dead end road. gl jbts |
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Once they got past the punji sticks, Claymores, and the moat full of hungry gators, it would be game on!
Of course anybody breaking down my door who is not screaming 'POLICE' at the top of their lungs is getting shot. I don't have any reason for a no knock raid on my property so being spring loaded to home invasion instead of po po raid is to be expected. |
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I'm far more intrigued by the possibility of a musical number featuring GrandfatherCoyote and a possible penguin cameo. Quoted:
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Alright, no comments on the content of the linked article? I've got the power! The power of voodoo? Who do? I do! |
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Alright, no comments on the content of the linked article? How about the actual brief. "Moreover, the undisputed evidence establishes that Cornish must have recognized that the men in his apartment were police officers. It is undisputed that Cornish was found in the doorway between the living room and the kitchen. To reach that point, he had to travel more than 16 feet across an illuminated living room toward an illuminated kitchen in the direction of two police officers in SWAT gear who were shouting their identity.[9] On these facts, as the first district court aptly recognized, Cornish "must have known that the men in his apartment were police officers but advanced on them nonetheless, and . . . no reasonable jury could conclude otherwise." J.A. 79." |
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Steel doors, steel frames, burglar bars. Ask nicely, or stay out. 
Besides, I don't have guns, guns are icky.  Quoted:
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So op just said that if someone breaks down his door he's going to go into the fetal position? Steel doors, steel frames, burglar bars. Ask nicely, or stay out.
Besides, I don't have guns, guns are icky. Knock, knock. 
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How about the actual brief. "Moreover, the undisputed evidence establishes that Cornish must have recognized that the men in his apartment were police officers. It is undisputed that Cornish was found in the doorway between the living room and the kitchen. To reach that point, he had to travel more than 16 feet across an illuminated living room toward an illuminated kitchen in the direction of two police officers in SWAT gear who were shouting their identity.[9] On these facts, as the first district court aptly recognized, Cornish "must have known that the men in his apartment were police officers but advanced on them nonetheless, and . . . no reasonable jury could conclude otherwise." J.A. 79." Quoted:
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Alright, no comments on the content of the linked article? How about the actual brief. "Moreover, the undisputed evidence establishes that Cornish must have recognized that the men in his apartment were police officers. It is undisputed that Cornish was found in the doorway between the living room and the kitchen. To reach that point, he had to travel more than 16 feet across an illuminated living room toward an illuminated kitchen in the direction of two police officers in SWAT gear who were shouting their identity.[9] On these facts, as the first district court aptly recognized, Cornish "must have known that the men in his apartment were police officers but advanced on them nonetheless, and . . . no reasonable jury could conclude otherwise." J.A. 79." He was blind the entire time. |
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Quoted: I've got the power! The power of voodoo? Who do? I do! Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Alright, no comments on the content of the linked article? I've got the power! The power of voodoo? Who do? I do!  |
""And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.” |
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How long do you think it takes for seven guys to haul ass through your house? Quoted:
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I would lay down suppressing fire and pull back to a safe distance in order to negotiate. How long do you think it takes for seven guys to haul ass through your house? Fast, but not as fast when someone is shooting back, especially when they have to navigate up a narrow stairwell. The reality is that I do not have plans on being on the wrong side so I am not to concerned about people being in a stack outside my door. 
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I would lay down suppressing fire and pull back to a safe distance in order to negotiate. How long do you think it takes for seven guys to haul ass through your house? This is arfcom. Their houses are so big that they need golf carts to get around inside. |