[ARCHIVED THREAD] - I noticed we are getting close to 2011 - What would YOU like to see in a 100th anniversary 1911? (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 10/21/2009 6:06:36 AM EDT
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I wonder if there is any chance that one or more of the big 1911 manufactures would bring out a retro 1911? March 29, 1911 it was adopted by US Army as the M1911  Just imagine if Colt for example would make a gun like this again, even if limited numbers:  Image borrowed from here: http://www.okshooters.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60800  Image borrowed from: http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/f57/gun-show-weekend-hmm-what-buy-17343/index2.html |
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A. I'd like it to still be legal in 2011.
B. I'd like to see the grip safety forever removed. C. I'd like to see it eat all types of ammo reliably (and accurately with good ammo) right out of the box. D. I'd like to see some capitalists takeover Colt and kick the UAW the fuck out. E. I'd like to see said capitalists run it like they give a flying fuck about their customers. F. Fuck Colt. G. Fuck obama. |
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I would love for them to re-release an original 1911 from 100 years ago, with the same coloring appointments.
The only 1911A1 change I would want made to it would be the rear and front sights; the ones from the 1911A1 are a bit easier for most people to see/use than the originals. (I wouldn't mind them being of the same size as the original 1911 either) (If you go to www.coltautos.com and look at 1911 serial number 198, you'll see what I mean for coloring..) |
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A resto-mod A 1911 like the model on top of the thread, but with: Flat MSH beavertail grip modern trigger modern sights extended safety Basically the ergonomics of a modern 1911 with the old school slide, no FCS, vertical rear serrations. I could go for that. I'd just want a 10-8 rear sight and a gold bead 
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This http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/attachments/f57/5517d1251315861-gun-show-weekend-hmm-what-buy-old1911.jpg Replica exactly as issued M1911 If you want a better trigger, sites, beaver tail and all the BS, there are plenty of aftermarket parts, and smiths to install them. I want an M1911. No bull shit, just plain Jane M1911. Yep wax paper and all! |
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LaRue Tactical 1911. Mark, are you listening? I've seen photos here of a 2011 he did a few years ago, it looked pretty cool. Damn, my pics no work! Oh well, next best thing to pics |
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I'm gonna go against the tide and say ultra modern Rail low profile night sights laser grips or laser guide rod dehorn or "melt" job modern weather resistant finish or black stainless Yawn, you can get that anywhere from any number of major manufacturers. Might have to have a smith do the "melt" and add the laser rod. Now show me where I can get a proper M1911 not M1911A1 but a plain M1911. |
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I'm gonna go against the tide and say ultra modern Rail low profile night sights laser grips or laser guide rod dehorn or "melt" job modern weather resistant finish or black stainless Yawn, you can get that anywhere from any number of major manufacturers. Might have to have a smith do the "melt" and add the laser rod. Now show me where I can get a proper M1911 not M1911A1 but a plain M1911. http://www.usfirearms.com/cat/1911.asp |
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I'm gonna go against the tide and say ultra modern Rail low profile night sights laser grips or laser guide rod dehorn or "melt" job modern weather resistant finish or black stainless Yawn, you can get that anywhere from any number of major manufacturers. Might have to have a smith do the "melt" and add the laser rod. Now show me where I can get a proper M1911 not M1911A1 but a plain M1911. http://www.usfirearms.com/cat/1911.asp Still not it. That one has the M1911A1 finger cutouts. $1,895.00 is a lot to spend on a copy that's not a correct copy. Like I said. I want a M1911 as it would have been issued in 1911. |
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This http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/attachments/f57/5517d1251315861-gun-show-weekend-hmm-what-buy-old1911.jpg Replica exactly as issued M1911 If you want a better trigger, sites, beaver tail and all the BS, there are plenty of aftermarket parts, and smiths to install them. I want an M1911. No bull shit, just plain Jane M1911. I concur 100% |
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I'm gonna go against the tide and say ultra modern Rail low profile night sights laser grips or laser guide rod dehorn or "melt" job modern weather resistant finish or black stainless Yawn, you can get that anywhere from any number of major manufacturers. Might have to have a smith do the "melt" and add the laser rod. Now show me where I can get a proper M1911 not M1911A1 but a plain M1911. http://www.usfirearms.com/cat/1911.asp Still not it. That one has the M1911A1 finger cutouts. $1,895.00 is a lot to spend on a copy that's not a correct copy. Like I said. I want a M1911 as it would have been issued in 1911. The closest you can currently get would be the Colt O1918 'Black Army' replica. There is also an O1911 model with carbonia bluing, but I believe those have all sold out. I got mine for $900. It's not perfect, and there are a few folks who nitpick over the various bits and proof marks, but it's a Colt, and it's a 1911. m ETA: It comes wrapped in wax paper too... |
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I'm gonna go against the tide and say ultra modern Rail low profile night sights laser grips or laser guide rod dehorn or "melt" job modern weather resistant finish or black stainless Yawn, you can get that anywhere from any number of major manufacturers. Might have to have a smith do the "melt" and add the laser rod. Now show me where I can get a proper M1911 not M1911A1 but a plain M1911. http://www.usfirearms.com/cat/1911.asp Still not it. That one has the M1911A1 finger cutouts. $1,895.00 is a lot to spend on a copy that's not a correct copy. Like I said. I want a M1911 as it would have been issued in 1911. The closest you can currently get would be the Colt O1918 'Black Army' replica. There is also an O1911 model with carbonia bluing, but I believe those have all sold out. I got mine for $900. It's not perfect, and there are a few folks who nitpick over the various bits and proof marks, but it's a Colt, and it's a 1911. m ETA: It comes wrapped in wax paper too... And here we come back to the premise of this thread. For 2011 Colt needs to bring back a true M1911 as issued in 1911 with all proper markings. A true 100 year design. Just pick up the serial number where the last M1911 left off. |
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And here we come back to the premise of this thread. For 2011 Colt needs to bring back a true M1911 as issued in 1911 with all proper markings. A true 100 year design. Just pick up the serial number where the last M1911 left off. Since the O1911 and the O1918 are likely what Colt would do in 2011 (or something very similar...), I'll go out on a limb and suggest that for 2011 have Ed Brown do exactly what you state above. Die hards would likely balk at 2011 commemorative 1911 from someone other than Colt, so the idea is unlikely to get any traction. However, consider that EB makes what I think are the closest to the original spirit of the 1911, but with modern manufacturing techniques, and all in-house premium parts. Consider this: A 5" 'Government Model' 1911 frame (no finger relief cuts), ball cut slide, in stainless, with the Gen III finish No beavertail, but possibly retaining the 'Memory Groove' Period checkered slide stop and thumb safety Flat, smooth MSH w/lanyard loop Small diamond walnut grips Ship it with two magazines, flat floorplate, lanyard loops, Gen III finish See Serial No. 4 at coltautos.com for a representative example. I'm a bit torn on the sights. I'd like to keep the Novak night sights, but if this is a true representation of the 1911, as delivered by Colt in 1911, it's likely more acceptable to use the same sights that SA installs on the Mil-Spec. Having all of the period proof stamps might be a bit silly, but perhaps some in house EB stampings would add character. Limit the production to 2011 pistols. m |
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I don't care. Military and retro 1911s don't interest me in the least. Really???  Yes. The military 1911 is lacking most of the charms of the platform, i.e. accuracy, great trigger, great sights, and great ergonomics. I don't buy 1911s to gaze at, I buy them to use, and the GI 1911 chews a hole in my hand, has sights that take until Thursday to find and align, and usually exhibits mediocre accuracy. I do own a couple 1911s that are pretty close to the original pattern, and I never shoot them, because when I do, I'm reminded why they spend most of their time in the safe. |
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Already on page 2 and no one has suggested building an STI 2011? Yes we did, this one on the middle of page 1 |
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Already on page 2 and no one has suggested building an STI 2011? Yes we did, this one on the middle of page 1 My bad.
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And here we come back to the premise of this thread. For 2011 Colt needs to bring back a true M1911 as issued in 1911 with all proper markings. A true 100 year design. Just pick up the serial number where the last M1911 left off. Since the O1911 and the O1918 are likely what Colt would do in 2011 (or something very similar...), I'll go out on a limb and suggest that for 2011 have Ed Brown do exactly what you state above. Die hards would likely balk at 2011 commemorative 1911 from someone other than Colt, so the idea is unlikely to get any traction. However, consider that EB makes what I think are the closest to the original spirit of the 1911, but with modern manufacturing techniques, and all in-house premium parts. Consider this: A 5" 'Government Model' 1911 frame (no finger relief cuts), ball cut slide, in stainless, with the Gen III finish No beavertail, but possibly retaining the 'Memory Groove' Period checkered slide stop and thumb safety Flat, smooth MSH w/lanyard loop Small diamond walnut grips Ship it with two magazines, flat floorplate, lanyard loops, Gen III finish See Serial No. 4 at coltautos.com for a representative example. I'm a bit torn on the sights. I'd like to keep the Novak night sights, but if this is a true representation of the 1911, as delivered by Colt in 1911, it's likely more acceptable to use the same sights that SA installs on the Mil-Spec. Having all of the period proof stamps might be a bit silly, but perhaps some in house EB stampings would add character. Limit the production to 2011 pistols. m I think there is enough of a demand for a M1911 that it would justify a full production model that would continue from 2011 on. |
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Original design (meaning original specified geometry for every part, each manufactured the same way as in 1911) with period mettalurgy and period craftsmanship.
I don't think they can help themselves from using cheap manufacturing and modern parts.I don't think anyone could. I couldn't. I just fucking love metal injection molding and I can't tolerate a gun without at least 50% off the shelf aftermarket parts made by several different companies. |
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1. EXACT reproduction of the original 1911 built to the original specs.
2. EXACT reproduction of the original 1911A1 built to the original specs. I suppose this can wait until 2024
3. Larue Tactical 1911 ETA - There are plenty of great 1911s out there with modern metallurgy and features, but very few faithful reproductions of the original. There are also plenty of aftermarket parts and smiths out there for those who might want to "improve" a 2011 re-issue. That Colt "Black Army" looks very nice. I wish they would at least do some more O1911A1s, but I'd prefer the original design to the Series 70 O1991A1. My dream would be for Mark Larue to do a run of 1911s built to the original specs (materials, tolerances, finish, etc.) on his machinery and to his quality standards  YMMV.
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A recreation of what I believe to be the pinnacle of the 1911 pistol: http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/53_vortec/pix4124331468.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/53_vortec/pix4124331562.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/53_vortec/pix4124331031.jpg God thats beautiful
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Personally I'd like to see a two-pistol set. A true M1911, not the A1. And the other pistol be an exact copy of the MEU(SOC) or whatever they call the current 1911 service pistol nowadays (cant remember for the life of me).
Given the chances of this, I've started setting aside alittle money to buy a springfield GI.45, plenty of ball ammo. Then go to the range and shoot it, alot. All on March 29th 2011. Just my personal celebration of 100years of a great pistol. Doing what it's ment to be do, shoot well, leave big holes, and just because it's great fun is also a plus for me. Always wanted a GI.45 and I suppose i can wait little over a year and make that pistol mean something to me. |
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I don't care. Military and retro 1911s don't interest me in the least. Really??? Yes. The military 1911 is lacking most of the charms of the platform, i.e. accuracy, great trigger, great sights, and great ergonomics. I don't buy 1911s to gaze at, I buy them to use, and the GI 1911 chews a hole in my hand, has sights that take until Thursday to find and align, and usually exhibits mediocre accuracy. I do own a couple 1911s that are pretty close to the original pattern, and I never shoot them, because when I do, I'm reminded why they spend most of their time in the safe. Too much sense in this post. |
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I want a 1911 with all the original markings and sell it for about $600.
It would be a base gun so I wouldnt want any extra work done to it at the factory, just a basic gun, like a GI or milspec, just with the original roll markings. If they could sell them for around $600 then I would buy 2 one to keep as an original and one for a base gun for custom work. |
I am still thinking about this and I have decided what I would like to buy (wether it be a commeratibe or not) is a modern 1911 Combat pistol with light rail and night sights: I wonder if a two gun set might be possible but then again I think I want to go the practical route over retro. |
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I am still thinking about this and I have decided what I would like to buy (wether it be a commeratibe or not) is a modern 1911 Combat pistol with light rail and night sights: http://www.kimberamerica.com/images/pistols/SIS/siscustomrl.jpg I wonder if a two gun set might be possible but then again I think I want to go the practical route over retro. The "modern" fighting 1911 is definitely representative of this decade. Years ago I was struck with the notion that for 2011, a 10 gun collection representing each decade would be ideal. These were my thoughts on the matter: 1910s - USGI M1911 1920s - Colt Commercial Government Model 1930s - Colt .38 Super 1940s - USGI M1911A1 1950s - Colt Commander 9mm 1960s - Colt Gold Cup/Bullseye type pistol 1970s - Swenson-style 1911 1980s - Colt Delta Elite 1990s - IPSC "Open Division" type 1911 2000s - MEUSOC ICQB style 1911 |
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A resto-mod A 1911 like the model on top of the thread, but with: Flat MSH beavertail grip modern trigger modern sights extended safety Basically the ergonomics of a modern 1911 with the old school slide, no FCS, vertical rear serrations. This, in stainless. I love the look of Colt's blueing on 1911s, but it's not conducive to a modern pistol that's heavily used. I'd even add a lowered and flared ejection port to the mix and a match-grade barrel/bushing combo. Standard double-diamond grips. No funky checkering anywhere on the gun. No triple adjustable super plutonium sights. No FLGR. No mag funnels. No dehorning. No tacky slide serrations. |
