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Posted: 11/21/2011 4:21:32 PM EST
Had a demo today with HK. Supposedly in 2012 HK will be releasing a striker fired economy priced handgun based loosely on the P30 (and uses P30 magazines). MSRP is in the $600s. No other info at this time. The demo was personal for me and was provided by an actual HK sales manager, not some dipshit gunshop commando. I'm kinda excited.
Here's a few toys I played with. 
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Posted: 11/21/2011 4:24:19 PM EST
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Ahhh you got to dip into the traveling cases!
I've had the chance to do that as well. Those HK reps are PIMPS. |
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Posted: 11/21/2011 4:27:52 PM EST
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Now that is what I call a GOOD DAY!
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Posted: 11/21/2011 4:30:31 PM EST
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Ahhh you got to dip into the traveling cases! I've had the chance to do that as well. Those HK reps are PIMPS. Dude was pimp. He called me last week when he heard I was looking to buy. I told him today was the only day to spare I had for a month. No prob he says and orders a case of the 4.7 overnight. It helps that he lives 20 minutes away. Cool ass day for sure. 
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Posted: 11/21/2011 5:05:29 PM EST
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Man.....I wish I could get to play with HK's like those.......
I wouldn't mind that UMP or HK MR556 or HK416 at all.... |
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Posted: 11/21/2011 5:13:35 PM EST
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There has been talk about the striker fired P30 for quite some time on HKPRO. There were several threads on it there but I have not been keeping up with them since the P30 really does not interest me or the striker fired version, but if you want to read what they have been talking about over there you might want to search it and see what they are saying.
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Posted: 11/21/2011 5:15:50 PM EST
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Good. I'm the first one that gets to tell you that you suck..........and I hate you.
Will keep my eyes open for the new model. I just hope they don't cut costs to the point that it cheapens the brand. Quality that it. |
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Posted: 11/21/2011 5:17:14 PM EST
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There has been talk about the striker fired P30 for quite some time on HKPRO. There were several threads on it there but I have not been keeping up with them since the P30 really does not interest me or the striker fired version, but if you want to read what they have been talking about over there you might want to search it and see what they are saying. Headed there now. |
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Posted: 11/21/2011 5:27:48 PM EST
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If the striker-fired P30-type comes to fruition, sure hope they do something about mag prices.
Seems like about a $15 difference between HK mags and Glock mags, and my gut tells me the HK striker is meant to be a direct Glock competitor. |
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Posted: 11/21/2011 5:45:44 PM EST
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I think HK is really onto something with the grip they came up with for the P30 and HK45
The gun feels great. Now if they can produce a 5 pound striker type trigger with short reset and maintain the reliability they are known for..... I may buy I'm a Glock guy now.... Love 1911s (work doesn't allow me to carry) .... And still use SW revolvers for backup |
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Posted: 11/21/2011 8:30:54 PM EST
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I like what they are doing now, I don't really see the need for them to make a striker fired pistol, but I am sure it will be pretty sweet. I don't know if I need to have one, but should be interesting to see at the very least.
I hope they keep to their word about the MRSP range of $600ish. It will still be too expensive to compete with the Glocks, XD's and M&P's, unless you shop at gander mountain.... 
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Posted: 11/21/2011 8:31:39 PM EST
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They get the bore axis a lot lower? That's my biggest complaint with the HK handgun line.
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Posted: 11/21/2011 9:03:12 PM EST
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Damn, looks like you had one hell of a Monday!! For, me personaly, I am not the biggest fan, of striker fired, pistols But, I would be intersted to see what HK could do with it. At the $600 range might introduce more people to the world of HK. |
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Posted: 11/22/2011 1:02:26 AM EST
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I heard rumblings of this on hkpro but thought it to be just wishful thinking.
I hope it comes to market |
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Posted: 11/22/2011 3:55:49 AM EST
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If the striker-fired P30-type comes to fruition, sure hope they do something about mag prices. Seems like about a $15 difference between HK mags and Glock mags, and my gut tells me the HK striker is meant to be a direct Glock competitor. That was one of the first questions I asked. You aren't going to like the answer. 
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They get the bore axis a lot lower? That's my biggest complaint with the HK handgun line. And that was the second question I asked. He said it was definitely lower. Seems the only real commonality will be some kind of P30 type frame. |
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Posted: 11/22/2011 1:51:22 PM EST
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They get the bore axis a lot lower? That's my biggest complaint with the HK handgun line. Get a P7 |
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Posted: 11/22/2011 3:56:36 PM EST
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I would not mind handling and shooting that MP7.......
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Posted: 11/22/2011 4:11:15 PM EST
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I would not mind handling and shooting that MP7....... It's ridiculously fun, especially with the suppressor. One more just to rub it in. 
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Posted: 11/22/2011 4:40:47 PM EST
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I hate you. Now your on my shit list Quoted:
I would not mind handling and shooting that MP7....... It's ridiculously fun, especially with the suppressor. One more just to rub it in.
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff98/mailbcw/08e0bcb6-1.jpg  Take care brother. Thanks for sharing the HK experience.
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Posted: 11/23/2011 6:18:40 AM EST
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They get the bore axis a lot lower? That's my biggest complaint with the HK handgun line. Get a P7 Already have one
Would really like something lighter, less expensive and with more magazine capacity... all of which I have in the USP, but I don't like the muzzle flip from the high bore axis vs the P7 or something like a Glock or M&P. |
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Posted: 11/23/2011 6:58:49 AM EST
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Striker fired P30 = PPQ .
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Posted: 11/23/2011 5:11:53 PM EST
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Striker fired P30 = PPQ . QFT. If I didn't already have 2 9mm pistols, a PPQ would be next up on my "to have" list. |
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Posted: 11/24/2011 12:09:05 PM EST
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Had a demo today with HK. Supposedly in 2012 HK will be releasing a striker fired economy priced handgun based loosely on the P30 (and uses P30 magazines). MSRP is in the $600s. No other info at this time. The demo was personal for me and was provided by an actual HK sales manager, not some dipshit gunshop commando. I'm kinda excited. Here's a few toys I played with. http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff98/mailbcw/9b4f4c4c.jpg http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff98/mailbcw/7695baf7.jpg http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff98/mailbcw/b562b043.jpg OH PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE. 
Thats It i'm not buying shit Until after 2012 SHOT. WAIT OH SNAP THIS IS NOT GOOD. |
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Posted: 11/24/2011 4:18:02 PM EST
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Had a demo today with HK. Supposedly in 2012 HK will be releasing a striker fired economy priced handgun based loosely on the P30 (and uses P30 magazines). MSRP is in the $600s. 
Sorry, couldn't resist.
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Posted: 11/24/2011 4:46:33 PM EST
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No word on the P30L LEM yet?
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Posted: 11/25/2011 6:16:19 AM EST
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Why would you want a striker fired P30 over say something like a P2k LEMV1?
Just curious. |
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Posted: 11/25/2011 6:20:16 AM EST
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Why would you want a striker fired P30 over say something like a P2k LEMV1? Just curious. No external hammer, reason I carry a Glock. |
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Posted: 11/25/2011 7:06:08 AM EST
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Why would you want a striker fired P30 over say something like a P2k LEMV1? Just curious. Lower bore height. Plenty of other reasons. |
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Posted: 11/25/2011 7:41:45 AM EST
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Why would you want a striker fired P30 over say something like a P2k LEMV1? Just curious. No external hammer, reason I carry a Glock. The reason I carry a H&K! Edit: P2k, USPC |
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Posted: 11/25/2011 10:31:05 AM EST
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Why would someone want a semi-auto masquerading as a revolver?
Never understood the LEM devotion. |
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Posted: 11/25/2011 10:35:38 AM EST
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Quoted: Why would someone want a semi-auto masquerading as a revolver? Never understood the LEM devotion.  Whaaa? |
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Posted: 11/25/2011 10:51:46 AM EST
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Why would someone want a semi-auto masquerading as a revolver? Never understood the LEM devotion. 
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Posted: 11/25/2011 11:25:32 AM EST
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Tagged for viewing at home.
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Posted: 11/25/2011 5:18:17 PM EST
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Why would you want a striker fired P30 over say something like a P2k LEMV1? Just curious. Lower bore height. Plenty of other reasons. Like a trigger that (hopefully) doesn't suck along with a short reset. |
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Posted: 11/26/2011 12:27:40 PM EST
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Not really interested in striker fired systems for handguns, even if H&K builds it.
I don't see it happening at all because it's just not part of HK's business model. Why should a forward thinking company like HK waste their time to re-invent the wheel and bring a bargain handgun to the masses? The Glock's been done already.
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Posted: 11/26/2011 9:00:58 PM EST
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Gonna release a "Heckler and Glock" eh???
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Posted: 11/27/2011 5:21:29 AM EST
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It is actually a smart move by H&K.
Like it or not, striker fired pistols are a huge market, both for LE and military, as well as civilian sales. I'm sure the observant minds at HK have noticed this, and the success of their German rival Walther's PPQ. If offering a stirker fired pistol can add to corporate profitability, why not? And offering it at a "realistic" price point is a win/win for the company and customers alike. Of course the old timers who purchased their HKs simply because they were expensive will be miffed, but who cares about them anyway? |
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Posted: 11/27/2011 5:33:06 AM EST
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I hope we see it
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Posted: 11/27/2011 12:48:03 PM EST
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It is actually a smart move by H&K. Like it or not, striker fired pistols are a huge market, both for LE and military, as well as civilian sales. I'm sure the observant minds at HK have noticed this, and the success of their German rival Walther's PPQ. If offering a stirker fired pistol can add to corporate profitability, why not? And offering it at a "realistic" price point is a win/win for the company and customers alike. Of course the old timers who purchased their HKs simply because they were expensive will be miffed, but who cares about them anyway? Don't hold your breath my friend. HK management has ZERO interest in pursuing this. Wait and see.
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Posted: 11/27/2011 12:51:40 PM EST
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It is actually a smart move by H&K. Like it or not, striker fired pistols are a huge market, both for LE and military, as well as civilian sales. I'm sure the observant minds at HK have noticed this, and the success of their German rival Walther's PPQ. If offering a stirker fired pistol can add to corporate profitability, why not? And offering it at a "realistic" price point is a win/win for the company and customers alike. Of course the old timers who purchased their HKs simply because they were expensive will be miffed, but who cares about them anyway? Don't hold your breath my friend. HK management has ZERO interest in pursuing this. Wait and see.
My info came directly from the sales manager for the Central Time Zone. Where does yours? |
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Posted: 11/27/2011 1:32:51 PM EST
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This won't be their first go at a striker fired pistol here guys.
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Posted: 11/28/2011 6:29:33 AM EST
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It is actually a smart move by H&K. Like it or not, striker fired pistols are a huge market, both for LE and military, as well as civilian sales. I'm sure the observant minds at HK have noticed this, and the success of their German rival Walther's PPQ. If offering a stirker fired pistol can add to corporate profitability, why not? And offering it at a "realistic" price point is a win/win for the company and customers alike. Of course the old timers who purchased their HKs simply because they were expensive will be miffed, but who cares about them anyway? Don't hold your breath my friend. HK management has ZERO interest in pursuing this. Wait and see.
My info came directly from the sales manager for the Central Time Zone. Where does yours? I asked a HK executive at the NRA Convention about the possibility of a striker fired P30 (AKA P40) and he stated that HK has no desire or plans to make one. Could be a case of the "left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing" though.
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Posted: 11/28/2011 7:06:54 AM EST
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It is actually a smart move by H&K. Like it or not, striker fired pistols are a huge market, both for LE and military, as well as civilian sales. I'm sure the observant minds at HK have noticed this, and the success of their German rival Walther's PPQ. If offering a stirker fired pistol can add to corporate profitability, why not? And offering it at a "realistic" price point is a win/win for the company and customers alike. Of course the old timers who purchased their HKs simply because they were expensive will be miffed, but who cares about them anyway? Don't hold your breath my friend. HK management has ZERO interest in pursuing this. Wait and see.
My info came directly from the sales manager for the Central Time Zone. Where does yours? I asked a HK executive at the NRA Convention about the possibility of a striker fired P30 (AKA P40) and he stated that HK has no desire or plans to make one. Could be a case of the "left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing" though.
Yeah I think it could go either way. I still haven't figured out why they have the MP5 in their product list. |
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Posted: 11/28/2011 4:31:05 PM EST
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I really hope this goes through. Hopefully they can do it and maintain reliability and give Glock a run for their money in the striker fired market. I would definitely buy one, I just hope they're made in Germany, and not in the US like the HK45's.
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Posted: 11/28/2011 5:21:18 PM EST
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I really hope this goes through. Hopefully they can do it and maintain reliability and give Glock a run for their money in the striker fired market. I would definitely buy one, I just hope they're made in Germany, and not in the US like the HK45's. I didn't ask but I would bet on US production. Even Glocks are made here now. |
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Posted: 11/29/2011 12:36:29 AM EST
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I really hope this goes through. Hopefully they can do it and maintain reliability and give Glock a run for their money in the striker fired market. I would definitely buy one, I just hope they're made in Germany, and not in the US like the HK45's. Good lord I'm tired of hearing/reading this. Why the hell does it matter if it's made here in the US or in Germany? |
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Posted: 11/29/2011 12:55:29 PM EST
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Just hope it's a better setup than FNs, where they use the same slide/barrel/frame configuration so it has the same handling qualities.
I want LOW bore axis, sleek slide, fast handling, along with the HK mag release and manual safety options. P7 meets USP-C with just a hint of M&P influence. It'd be really interesting if they'd reconstitute the P9s roller lock operating system in order to get back to the fixed barrel. Or even the gas retarded system from the P7. Maybe in another iteration of pistol design. Quoted:
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They get the bore axis a lot lower? That's my biggest complaint with the HK handgun line. And that was the second question I asked. He said it was definitely lower. Seems the only real commonality will be some kind of P30 type frame. P30 frame sets the hand a lot lower on the grip because of the hammer mechanism. If you compare any HK USP or derivative to a P7, Glock, or M&P grip you will see how much lower the gun sits in the hand. Something like a P7 or P9 also puts the bore a lot lower in the slide, further reducing the bore axis. |
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Posted: 11/29/2011 1:27:24 PM EST
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With m&ps at $400 and glock at 550$ and xds about the same or less, it better be in that price range or it won't compete.
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Posted: 11/29/2011 1:48:46 PM EST
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Just hope it's a better setup than FNs, where they use the same slide/barrel/frame configuration so it has the same handling qualities. I want LOW bore axis, sleek slide, fast handling, along with the HK mag release and manual safety options. P7 meets USP-C with just a hint of M&P influence. It'd be really interesting if they'd reconstitute the P9s roller lock operating system in order to get back to the fixed barrel. Or even the gas retarded system from the P7. Maybe in another iteration of pistol design. Quoted:
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They get the bore axis a lot lower? That's my biggest complaint with the HK handgun line. And that was the second question I asked. He said it was definitely lower. Seems the only real commonality will be some kind of P30 type frame. P30 frame sets the hand a lot lower on the grip because of the hammer mechanism. If you compare any HK USP or derivative to a P7, Glock, or M&P grip you will see how much lower the gun sits in the hand. Something like a P7 or P9 also puts the bore a lot lower in the slide, further reducing the bore axis. I think the low bore on the P7 is due to the fixed barrel. I don't own one but the lack of a need for a lug would certainly lower it. |
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Posted: 12/1/2011 7:00:10 PM EST
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You guys are quite demanding, if they build a striker fired weapon of the quality they are known for with a thumb safety of the quality expected from H&K, I'll buy one or more.
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Posted: 12/2/2011 12:39:52 PM EST
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Had a demo today with HK. Supposedly in 2012 HK will be releasing a striker fired economy priced handgun based loosely on the P30 That's how we know this is all BS
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