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Posted: 8/10/2019 4:48:30 PM EDT
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@JohnMH92 , slightly OT, what problems did you have with the 6920s? |
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Posted: 8/10/2019 7:11:27 PM EDT
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Customer service and quality control are the biggest issues. Some of them are FTE and double feed. Tried different mags and some of the rifles are mag-picky. It'll shoot some super old ones and brand new ones, and other brand new ones or old ones won't work. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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@JohnMH92 , slightly OT, what problems did you have with the 6920s? |
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Posted: 9/10/2019 8:23:40 AM EDT
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Is there any update on the new Glock mos plates?
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Posted: 9/11/2019 5:00:34 PM EDT
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Still vapor ware.
My two personal MOS 19s with the correct screws are not an issue. Still haven't heard back from friends in the SF community regarding what they are having issues with, if any. |
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Posted: 9/13/2019 6:11:19 PM EDT
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More C&H V3 goodness. 9k rds through glock 19.5 MOS with RMR 06 type 2 (pics of it on earlier pages). 1k rds through G34.5 MOS and 2.5 MOA SRO.
Both have C&H V3 plate. Never any issues with them. perfect fit and finish. After 10k rds total through the V3 plate I’m unsure why people are complaining it’s aluminum. Works great. 
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Posted: 9/14/2019 4:45:12 PM EDT
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No problems with mine to date.
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Posted: 9/23/2019 11:01:50 PM EDT
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Any idea of the screw length for the c&h rmr/holosun plate (sight to plate)? I just ordered one to try out but would rather use torx screws. Also will the glock screws work for mounting the plate to the slide?
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Posted: 9/24/2019 2:28:14 AM EDT
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Any idea of the screw length for the c&h rmr/holosun plate (sight to plate)? I just ordered one to try out but would rather use torx screws. Also will the glock screws work for mounting the plate to the slide? |
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Posted: 9/24/2019 11:32:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You could always email them and ask. They have great CS  Guess I'll just be careful. They did get back to me quickly though
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Posted: 9/26/2019 8:39:28 PM EDT
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PSA to anyone who is mounting an RMR to a glock MOS:
Install the RMR to the MOS adapter plate first and look at the bottom of the adapter plate to make sure that the screws does not protrude through the bottom. I had the correct screws from the RMR mounting kit from Trijicon (ac32064) but one of the screw was out of spec. It was only a hair too long but that was enough to bend the adapter plate when I tightened the RMR to the gun. Now I have to file/sand the stupid screws and try to bend the MOS plate back. |
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Posted: 9/26/2019 8:44:50 PM EDT
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I’ve also had this happen with the Trijicon kit
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Posted: 9/29/2019 3:09:06 PM EDT
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I ended up dumping my 19 Gen5 MOS and bought one of those new 19 Gen5's with the front cocking serrations and no half-moon cut.
Should be at my LGS this week. Lucky for me, Jagerwerks is local, I could walk to their shop! JW did my 19X, I could beat the shit out of the thing and the RMR would remain rock solid. I'm never going to run anything other than a RM-06 HRS anyway soooo. |
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Posted: 10/2/2019 9:49:43 PM EDT
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What screws is everyone using to attach their Holosun 507c to the MOS plate?
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Posted: 10/3/2019 6:06:50 AM EDT
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What screws is everyone using to attach their Holosun 507c to the MOS plate? |
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Posted: 10/4/2019 11:59:59 AM EDT
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Another C&H V3 fan here. Put one on my G34 and am really happy with it. Everything I need in a plate, and nothing I don’t. I could care less that it is not made of steel as it is holding up just fine.
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Posted: 10/4/2019 7:00:47 PM EDT
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It's very hard to straighten the plate once its bent (at least for me). I tried reversing and retightening and hammering.
 You're tightening from the top and then look at it from the side...
Good thing Glock has a very understanding CS dept. |
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Posted: 10/5/2019 2:35:15 PM EDT
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They wouldn't tell me the length. They said they dont make a torx screw that size, or they would include them Guess I'll just be careful. They did get back to me quickly thoughQuote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: You could always email them and ask. They have great CS Guess I'll just be careful. They did get back to me quickly thoughI know it's been a minute since you asked this , but . . .  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/5/2019 4:52:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @Reggie72 I know it's been a minute since you asked this , but |
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Posted: 10/5/2019 7:03:08 PM EDT
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Thanks for posting. I got my plate a couple weeks ago and saw that card included. Im not sure why they wouldnt tell me the length, and why they said torx screws dont exists in that size. Ive since found a handful of places that sell them, but at this point it's already mounted. I have a feeling it will be a bitch to take off. I dont get along with allen head screws haha Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: @Reggie72 I know it's been a minute since you asked this , but https://www.mcmaster.com/96452a711 https://www.mcmaster.com/96452a106 https://www.mcmaster.com/94414a108 |
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Posted: 10/7/2019 6:11:55 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/16/2019 12:14:56 PM EDT
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Vortex Venom 3 moa $180 to your door @ PSA
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Posted: 10/22/2019 7:23:49 PM EDT
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Mounting plate screws sheared off today while shooting. The plate with RMR attached came tumbling back and bounced off my forehead.
This was with a 19 gen 5 MOS. The mounting plate had come loose several times before. Finally I had snapped the screws during another mounting attempt ( torque wrench 14 "lbs). A gunsmith removed them. The next attempt I used Big Tex screws which I believe they claim twice the strength as the Glock screws. Who knows. I got 2,900 rounds through this mounting attempt. My luck has not been good. I'm just one guy with one MOS but right now I'm done. |
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Posted: 10/22/2019 7:51:01 PM EDT
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This was with the factory plate?
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Posted: 10/22/2019 8:08:30 PM EDT
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Yep, factory
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Posted: 10/22/2019 9:08:25 PM EDT
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Sorry to hear that. Replace it with a C&H V3.
9,000 rds through my 19.5 MOS with C&H V3 and no issues. Bearing an RMR06 2,000 rds through my 34.5 MOS C&H V3 no issues. Bearing an SRO |
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Posted: 10/23/2019 12:43:42 AM EDT
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Sorry to hear that. Replace it with a C&H V3. 9,000 rds through my 19.5 MOS with C&H V3 and no issues. Bearing an RMR06 2,000 rds through my 34.5 MOS C&H V3 no issues. Bearing an SRO |
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Posted: 10/23/2019 7:53:06 AM EDT
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Mounting plate screws sheared off today while shooting. The plate with RMR attached came tumbling back and bounced off my forehead. This was with a 19 gen 5 MOS. The mounting plate had come loose several times before. Finally I had snapped the screws during another mounting attempt ( torque wrench 14 "lbs). A gunsmith removed them. The next attempt I used Big Tex screws which I believe they claim twice the strength as the Glock screws. Who knows. I got 2,900 rounds through this mounting attempt. My luck has not been good. I'm just one guy with one MOS but right now I'm done. Which means something went wrong. Blue loctite and proper degreasing is required on these setups, otherwise they come loose. It’s always a good idea to make sure your trijicon supplied mounting screws aren’t too long as well, as that can place additional pressure on the mounting plate screws. The MOS system isn’t the best, but when you install things properly it works just fine. |
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Posted: 10/23/2019 9:21:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They broke because you had to keep tightening them. Which means something went wrong. Blue loctite and proper degreasing is required on these setups, otherwise they come loose. It’s always a good idea to make sure your trijicon supplied mounting screws aren’t too long as well, as that can place additional pressure on the mounting plate screws. The MOS system isn’t the best, but when you install things properly it works just fine. Don't know what I missed but, like I said, I'm one guy with one MOS. Other people are clearly making it work. I'm not going to slam the MOS on my one experience. |
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Posted: 10/23/2019 9:45:17 PM EDT
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I certainly hit the points you mentioned. Pre-checked everything, got calipers out and measured plates/screws, degreased, Loctite. I didn't just slap this on. I did a silly amount of reading on the MOS, MOS/RDS mounting. Don't know what I missed but, like I said, I'm one guy with one MOS. Other people are clearly making it work. I'm not going to slam the MOS on my one experience. |
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Posted: 10/31/2019 1:54:24 PM EDT
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Anyone making a steel plate yet? Updates??
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Posted: 10/31/2019 2:47:40 PM EDT
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Anyone making a steel plate yet? Updates?? 
FCD is one company you can not push to release something prematurely. They actually like to test their stuff, and aren't too proud to make changes if necessary. S/F |
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Posted: 10/31/2019 8:25:41 PM EDT
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That’s great news. Fcd only does things right so you know this plate will kick ass.
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Posted: 10/31/2019 10:14:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yup. Forward Controls Design is working on some right now, prototypes soon I hope to get my paws on and wring out hard, maybe even a few other trusted shooters I know. As of now you're looking at two months or so before full on production.
FCD is one company you can not push to release something prematurely. They actually like to test their stuff, and aren't too proud to make changes if necessary. S/F OUTSTANDING!!! Do you know if the plate will have matching grooves like the slide? Th CH plate over hangs and it's not a perfect cut like it belongs there. |
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Posted: 10/31/2019 11:32:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yup. Forward Controls Design is working on some right now, prototypes soon I hope to get my paws on and wring out hard, maybe even a few other trusted shooters I know. As of now you're looking at two months or so before full on production.
FCD is one company you can not push to release something prematurely. They actually like to test their stuff, and aren't too proud to make changes if necessary. S/F |
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Posted: 11/1/2019 11:05:50 AM EDT
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Our plate supports the full width of the RMR, so the sides will over hang, which renders matching serrations non-functional, therefore there will not be matching serrations. The choice is either let the RMR itself, or RMR + plate overhang, we choose to support the width of the RMR, and forego cosmetics.
We let form follow function. Our motto is function over form. So happens usually it results in pretty good looking products, I assure you it's but a happy coincidence 
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Posted: 11/1/2019 10:25:11 PM EDT
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Our plate supports the full width of the RMR, so the sides will over hang, which renders matching serrations non-functional, therefore there will not be matching serrations. The choice is either let the RMR itself, or RMR + plate overhang, we choose to support the width of the RMR, and forego cosmetics. We let form follow function. Our motto is function over form. So happens usually it results in pretty good looking products, I assure you it's but a happy coincidence |
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Posted: 11/1/2019 11:19:52 PM EDT
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Proper mounting is a significant issue with pistol RDS and even more so with the MOS. Like it or not many LE/MIL users don’t have any other options. That said, agencies I’m familiar with, using MOS mounted RDS properly installed by an Armorer are not having issues.
1) use a torque driver - both over and under tightening cause issues. 14-15 inch/lbs unless directed otherwise. 2) CHS plates and the B&T made plate for the ACRO both fit MUCH better than the Glock factory plates. 3) Use proper screws, be that the Trijicon kits, C&H supplied screw or screws from Battlewerx 4) Use VC3 Vibratite rather than Loctite. Blue isn't strong enough and Red Loctite is too strong and will result in stripped out screw heads. 5) Degrease the screws, apply the VC and allow it to dry 45 min. I had my doubts about the C&H plate because it’s aluminum. I was wrong. If I was going to equip cops with MOS guns and optics I would mandate the C&H plate. |
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Posted: 11/2/2019 9:36:26 AM EDT
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Our plate supports the full width of the RMR, so the sides will over hang, which renders matching serrations non-functional, therefore there will not be matching serrations. The choice is either let the RMR itself, or RMR + plate overhang, we choose to support the width of the RMR, and forego cosmetics. We let form follow function. Our motto is function over form. So happens usually it results in pretty good looking products, I assure you it's but a happy coincidence |
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Posted: 11/2/2019 11:39:29 AM EDT
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Has anyone had a problem with the MOS platform? Screws shearing off? I spoke to a G-rep/tech, who will be nameless. I ask, "How's the MOS system?" He looks around (behind us as well) and then comments that they had a lot of issues with the aforementioned problem. 70% success rate in getting the broken screws out without damaging the rest of the slide. The other, not so much.  The screws hold the mrds to the plate. There's a gap fore and aft of the mrds. As the slide recoils, all the stress is put on those two screws, since there is movement to the mrds. The problem also occurs when you try to remove the mrds.
Anyone had this issue? Resolution? Round count? |
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Posted: 11/3/2019 12:32:28 AM EDT
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Pics can be released once we are done testing the prototypes, ETA is 2 months, give or take
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Posted: 11/17/2019 10:45:04 AM EDT
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Pics can be released once we are done testing the prototypes, ETA is 2 months, give or take THANKS! |
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Posted: 11/17/2019 12:09:59 PM EDT
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Proper mounting is a significant issue with pistol RDS and even more so with the MOS. Like it or not many LE/MIL users don’t have any other options. That said, agencies I’m familiar with, using MOS mounted RDS properly installed by an Armorer are not having issues. 1) use a torque driver - both over and under tightening cause issues. 14-15 inch/lbs unless directed otherwise. 2) CHS plates and the B&T made plate for the ACRO both fit MUCH better than the Glock factory plates. 3) Use proper screws, be that the Trijicon kits, C&H supplied screw or screws from Battlewerx 4) Use VC3 Vibratite rather than Loctite. Blue isn't strong enough and Red Loctite is too strong and will result in stripped out screw heads. 5) Degrease the screws, apply the VC and allow it to dry 45 min. I had my doubts about the C&H plate because it’s aluminum. I was wrong. If I was going to equip cops with MOS guns and optics I would mandate the C&H plate. What torque spec are you using for the MOS plate to the slide? Glock never released a spec no matter how many times I've asked.... I've been using the short side of the torx wrench and tightening as much as I can with no issues. |
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Posted: 11/17/2019 1:18:06 PM EDT
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RMR for now, if there is demand, we can easily mod it for other optics
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just for RMR or any plans for DPP and other optics as well? THANKS! |
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Posted: 11/21/2019 8:22:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The whole platform is kind of...well...junk, really. The minimal cost of having a slide milled over the MOS platform is just so much better in basically every single way. You could make the enlargement of being able to swap optics. But no one is actually doing that in reality. Most guys are smart enough to do the whole buy once, cry once thing with a DP Pro or RMR and they're done with it. |
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Posted: 11/27/2019 6:42:28 PM EDT
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Worth reading twice. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: The whole platform is kind of...well...junk, really. The minimal cost of having a slide milled over the MOS platform is just so much better in basically every single way. You could make the enlargement of being able to swap optics. But no one is actually doing that in reality. Most guys are smart enough to do the whole buy once, cry once thing with a DP Pro or RMR and they're done with it. Step 1. Replace MOS with non-MOS... Step 2. Drive down to Jagerwerks... Step 3. Profit! Side note, buying the FS and having it machined was cheaper than buying the MOS and buying the C&H mounting plate and I would feel more comfortable doing this with it: 19 Gen5 FS machined by Jagerwerks  19 Gen5 MOS FS 
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Posted: 12/9/2019 6:40:19 PM EDT
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I like my V3 plate.
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Posted: 12/9/2019 7:24:43 PM EDT
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Yeah, I found a GREAT fix... Step 1. Replace MOS with non-MOS... Step 2. Drive down to Jagerwerks... Step 3. Profit! Side note, buying the FS and having it machined was cheaper than buying the MOS and buying the C&H mounting plate and I would feel more comfortable doing this with it: 19 Gen5 FS machined by Jagerwerks https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/W8SOD1DzCmmdxtEkhWIng_T_NWKaWLTFLHMWqigMhd39EVhzGLD5wpSQphHIVpHZXx-cnrO4lJ9tpK9XZtDX2l2iy1L9J6NqC78d6es_du3s9Q0Knv0ozn9c7yjC363jt0DXMKQp8Z8=w800 19 Gen5 MOS FS https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/04hi1NR-_KlcNBl2Gy59i2pRu6mpYh1qB3yofOYydrdl8Fyy3iwaie11hfdsC3xzLNU9IOoF-7GrICDvP3yjJDZEMH7WoO-kVtKAjbwluAR3jcyuAm3VlO593SGjct7LNhAfD8VTgiE=w800 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: The whole platform is kind of...well...junk, really. The minimal cost of having a slide milled over the MOS platform is just so much better in basically every single way. You could make the enlargement of being able to swap optics. But no one is actually doing that in reality. Most guys are smart enough to do the whole buy once, cry once thing with a DP Pro or RMR and they're done with it. Step 1. Replace MOS with non-MOS... Step 2. Drive down to Jagerwerks... Step 3. Profit! Side note, buying the FS and having it machined was cheaper than buying the MOS and buying the C&H mounting plate and I would feel more comfortable doing this with it: 19 Gen5 FS machined by Jagerwerks https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/W8SOD1DzCmmdxtEkhWIng_T_NWKaWLTFLHMWqigMhd39EVhzGLD5wpSQphHIVpHZXx-cnrO4lJ9tpK9XZtDX2l2iy1L9J6NqC78d6es_du3s9Q0Knv0ozn9c7yjC363jt0DXMKQp8Z8=w800 19 Gen5 MOS FS https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/04hi1NR-_KlcNBl2Gy59i2pRu6mpYh1qB3yofOYydrdl8Fyy3iwaie11hfdsC3xzLNU9IOoF-7GrICDvP3yjJDZEMH7WoO-kVtKAjbwluAR3jcyuAm3VlO593SGjct7LNhAfD8VTgiE=w800 |
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Posted: 12/9/2019 9:08:34 PM EDT
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Yeah, I found a GREAT fix... Step 1. Replace MOS with non-MOS... Step 2. Drive down to Jagerwerks... Step 3. Profit! Side note, buying the FS and having it machined was cheaper than buying the MOS and buying the C&H mounting plate and I would feel more comfortable doing this with it: 19 Gen5 FS machined by Jagerwerks https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/W8SOD1DzCmmdxtEkhWIng_T_NWKaWLTFLHMWqigMhd39EVhzGLD5wpSQphHIVpHZXx-cnrO4lJ9tpK9XZtDX2l2iy1L9J6NqC78d6es_du3s9Q0Knv0ozn9c7yjC363jt0DXMKQp8Z8=w800 19 Gen5 MOS FS https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/04hi1NR-_KlcNBl2Gy59i2pRu6mpYh1qB3yofOYydrdl8Fyy3iwaie11hfdsC3xzLNU9IOoF-7GrICDvP3yjJDZEMH7WoO-kVtKAjbwluAR3jcyuAm3VlO593SGjct7LNhAfD8VTgiE=w800 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: The whole platform is kind of...well...junk, really. The minimal cost of having a slide milled over the MOS platform is just so much better in basically every single way. You could make the enlargement of being able to swap optics. But no one is actually doing that in reality. Most guys are smart enough to do the whole buy once, cry once thing with a DP Pro or RMR and they're done with it. Step 1. Replace MOS with non-MOS... Step 2. Drive down to Jagerwerks... Step 3. Profit! Side note, buying the FS and having it machined was cheaper than buying the MOS and buying the C&H mounting plate and I would feel more comfortable doing this with it: 19 Gen5 FS machined by Jagerwerks https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/W8SOD1DzCmmdxtEkhWIng_T_NWKaWLTFLHMWqigMhd39EVhzGLD5wpSQphHIVpHZXx-cnrO4lJ9tpK9XZtDX2l2iy1L9J6NqC78d6es_du3s9Q0Knv0ozn9c7yjC363jt0DXMKQp8Z8=w800 19 Gen5 MOS FS https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/04hi1NR-_KlcNBl2Gy59i2pRu6mpYh1qB3yofOYydrdl8Fyy3iwaie11hfdsC3xzLNU9IOoF-7GrICDvP3yjJDZEMH7WoO-kVtKAjbwluAR3jcyuAm3VlO593SGjct7LNhAfD8VTgiE=w800 I'd love to have front serrations and milled, but I got my G19.4 MOS and G34.4 MOS for $520 OTD and $532 OTD respectively, so with the plate I'm still in each for ~$580-590 vs buying a G19 +$150-250 for milling |
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Posted: 12/9/2019 9:51:22 PM EDT
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I have a gut feeling this new plate is going to make the MOS system an incredibly solid option.
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Posted: 12/9/2019 10:16:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 4) Use VC3 Vibratite rather than Loctite. Blue isn't strong enough and Red Loctite is too strong and will result in stripped out screw heads. |
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