Posted: 2/23/2008 8:09:21 AM EDT
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I owned a springfield 1911 GI .45 a while back. Color me ignorant, but I could never hit anything with it, at 7 yards the grouping would be all over the place, and past that, I couldn't hit the target at all. My friend who is an even better shot than I am, used it also, and he too couldn't hit squat past 7 yards, granted the sights were crude, but it shouldnt have been that inaccurate. My question would be, either A) are these types of 1911's always inaccurate (in which case why did the US use them for 70+ years?) or B) Both us being younger/newer shooters, is there any particular technique we should have used for firing the pistol. I figure, if anyone knows, it would be the madmen in the arfcom 1911 forum. Fire away! Thanks |
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My SAI GI 45 is the most accurate 1911 I own. The tiny sights are actually pretty good for accuracy shooting, but not so good for speed. 5 yards - easy headshots 10 yards - Headshots 15 yards - slow headshots 25 yards - hear shots 50 yards - upper body shots 100 yards - whole body shots 150 yards - questionable... How are you holding the pistol? Try mixing in some dummy rounds in the magazine and see what happens while you're shooting. |
Well stated and consistant with my personal experience with a range of 1911s including SAs. |
| Maybe It was a Charles Daly? I had one that the back sight flew off of 10 rounds into a shooting session during a winter shoot. This was after I had taken the gun out 2 times before and had about 250 rounds through. It had a crisp 90 lb. trigger and used to group like a pepperbox. |
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No he said he had a Springfield GI. Although I did throw a Charles Daly at a target at 7 yards one time and almost hit the target.  To the OP, maybe it was the ammo( did you try other brands?), or the way you grip the pistol (see combat grip sticky above), or it could be that you flinch (well do you, punk? ), or your stance... It could be a dozen different things. Could even be the pistol. But I have one of those and it shoots rather well for a GI from Springfield. |
Welcome to the club. I admire your honesty  I've found that if my shooting is off.. a couple of beers really gets me back on target. Seriously .. maybe you just need to pump out more ammo, and see where it's shooting. |
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Funny story: I bought a $1200 Springfield TRP. That thing is amazing. It'll print one hole groups at 25 yards, all day long. The fit is incredible, and the slide feels like a well-oiled piston. Then, I went on a Band of Brothers bender, and decided I had to have a Springfield GI model. I jumped for joy when I found one for $375, and then I cried bitter, bitter tears when I found that it would shoot just as well as the TRP. Moral: It's not the Springer. If more people shoot it, and they can't hit with it either, then send it back to SA and take advantage of their lifetime warranty. They're really quick with repairs and have great and knowledgeable customer service. |
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I think you need to have it ransom rested. I have run into a very few Springfield barrels that couldn't group for anything, even after a good re-crown and tuning. I've seen a couple brand new Kart barrels that wouldn't perform too, so it's luck of the draw. Sometimes there is just something in the machining that creates a sub standard setup. The only way you will know for sure is to have it rested and a test target supplied. I'm not saying it is a bad barrel. Lord knows that I've seen quite a few guns over the years, but I have seen 2 Springfield barrels that just couldn't keep up. Elimintate that part of the equation, find a smith with a Ransom Rest and test it before any other conclusions are jumped. Email me if you have interest in using my rest. Bob |
Bob, I am interested in using your rest. Please deliver it to my house. You have the address. Do not use the door bell as it scares the cats. Thanks ! 
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Can you shoot other pistols better than you do this one? If you're shooting 3" groups at 25 yards with a glock or something, then it might be the gun. I suspect it's you. If you can, find an experienced shooter to help you at the range. Trying to learn to shoot from reading is not easy. Much better to have someone along who can give immediate feedback. |
Hahahaha. I'll send it right over with a $1000 deposit and you pay the shipping. 
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I assumed you would deliver it personally and then do a little work on the Colt stable.
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You never know, I may be anywhere this summer with some of the planned trips. Stopping by if I'm in the area is a good idea. |
A re-crowing is a very good idea. Do you have a local smith that can re-crown the barrel for you? Bob |