Posted: 12/18/2011 6:27:38 PM EDT
| do you carry your 1911 with the thumb saftey on or off? you still have the grip saftey. |
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Thumb safety ON. The grip safety IS NOT ENOUGH!!!
That trigger is too light and the travel is too short for there to be nothing between you and it but the small tab on the grip safety. I'm all about taking responsibility for your trigger finger, but that is going too far. |
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Jeff Cooper was recognized as the father of what is commonly know as "the Modern Technique" of handgun shooting, and one of the 20th century's foremost international experts on the use and history of small arms. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Cooper This is one of his lessons. Condition Zero: round chambered, full mag, hammer cocked, safety off (this is the condition you asked about and should not be used) Condition One: round chambered, full mag, hammer cocked, safety on (this is the proper condition for defensive carry) Condition Two: round chambered, full mag, hammer down (never do this with a series 70 or any 1911 without a firing pin safety) Condition Three: chamber empty, full mag, hammer down. Condition Four: Chamber empty, no magazine, hammer down. |
While I carry both a 9mm 1911 and 45 ACP 1911 which have the grip safeties I also carry on ocassion a Colt 380 which doesn't. For all of them I carry with the thumb safety engaged and my holsters are shaped to the thumb safety being engaged (they will actually bump it into position if I holster it without engaging the safety). You train to disengage that thumb safety right before putting your finger on the trigger and it's an added level of safety without any added time to firing. The beauty of it is if you train doing something you can get your self used to doing it so it doesn't require any noticeable amount of additional time or having to think about doing it. If you don't go to pistol classes you still can put yourself through the paces and get in the habit of doing it. Just the same, you can also make habits of things that can also be detrimental to you (plenty of Youtubes of police officers shooting themselves in the leg while teaching classes). 
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While I carry both a 9mm 1911 and 45 ACP 1911 which have the grip safeties I also carry on ocassion a Colt 380 which doesn't. For all of them I carry with the thumb safety engaged and my holsters are shaped to the thumb safety being engaged (they will actually bump it into position if I holster it without engaging the safety). You train to disengage that thumb safety right before putting your finger on the trigger and it's an added level of safety without any added time to firing. The beauty of it is if you train doing something you can get your self used to doing it so it doesn't require any noticeable amount of additional time or having to think about doing it. If you don't go to pistol classes you still can put yourself through the paces and get in the habit of doing it. Just the same, you can also make habits of things that can also be detrimental to you (plenty of Youtubes of police officers shooting themselves in the leg while teaching classes). +1 i used a c clamp under the.engaged safty to mold it perfect to make sure it doesnt become undone while im active. |
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Thumb safety on. Quoted: Jeff Cooper was recognized as the father of what is commonly know as "the Modern Technique" of handgun shooting, and one of the 20th century's foremost international experts on the use and history of small arms. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Cooper This is one of his lessons. Condition Zero: round chambered, full mag, hammer cocked, safety off (this is the condition you asked about and should not be used) Condition One: round chambered, full mag, hammer cocked, safety on (this is the proper condition for defensive carry) Condition Two: round chambered, full mag, hammer down (never do this with any 1911) Condition Three: chamber empty, full mag, hammer down. Condition Four: Chamber empty, no magazine, hammer down. Fixed. Never do this with any single action semiauto, like a 1911 or Browning Hipower.If it is a DA/SA semi that has a slide or frame mount decocking lever (i.e., Beretta 92, S&W, Sig, etc.), then condition 2 is appropriate. |
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I figured you all yould say saftey on. Just had to ask. Been carrying a Glock and went back to my Colt Defender and was wondering if the grip saftey was enough.
So does the thumd saftey acually enguage something the grip saftey does not. I know the grip saftey blockes triger travel. |