Posted: 10/8/2010 2:21:24 PM EDT
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Perhaps this has been asked before, but I couldn't find an answer...
Which sells more, 1911 or Glock? Does anyone know? To be specific, has anyone ever taken the time to determine the sales figures on 1911-style pistols from the larger factory manufacturers (Colt, S&W, Sig, Remington, Springifeld, Kimber, etc.) and compared them with figures published by Glock on their sales? Methinks Glock might have the edge, especially with all the police sales, but friends and I were debating this. Anyone? |
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Moving this to Handgun discussions. http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1033106&light=1911 |
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In before all out war...
That being said, 1911's have been sold for 99 years from dozens of manufacturers. By the end of WW2 Colt had produced almost 3 million alone. I couldn't find any statistics on total numbers produced ever, but it has to be in the ball part of a few million metric shit-tons. Inversely, Glock has been around for 25 years, and are produced by only one company. I'd say there are way more 1911's out there. I'd also like to add... I carry a Glock 
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I would say the 1911 "design" has sold more. I base this on the fact it's been around for 100 years. Glocks may be gaining quickly, mostly due to LEO and Government contracts? Oh and civilians, they also love those ugly ass things....Hell, even I've got one but I have two 1911's to make up for it
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I'd say there are more 1911's out there and possibly even more 1911's sold. Dozens of companies selling many, many guns will get more out there than one company selling/importing them. That's not to say Glocks don't sell well, or that there aren't a bunch of them out there
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Ones been around for roughly 30 years and the other used through 4 major world conflicts and has over 100 years history of market share. Been proclaimed dead and outdated more times than I can count.Yet still enjoys an extremely healthy market share. 1911 wins by time on market.
Really, I'd be more curious who's going to make Penthouse model of the year than who's sold more guns. |
| The criteria is a bit vague; you'd have to slim it down and maybe say "only to the civilian market" and maybe start the count since Glock was introduced or you'll have everybody quoting the number of 1911's made for the government. If you limit the question to civilian market and a 'per year' tally, I'd give the Glock the edge. You couple name recognition with their reputation and their price point and I think it would probably put Glock's offerings out front. |
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I was just googling around and wikipedia posted that there have been 2.5 million Glocks produced. 2.5 million divided by 25 years (easy math) looks like 100,000 a year. Seeing how Springfield Armory imports roughly 50,000 pistols a year and builds another 10,000, Colt builds 20,000 and Kimber builds almost 50,000..... I'm not making any bold statements about the pistols, and it's impressive that Glock (one company) can put out that number of guns, but I doubt they are the most sold pistol per year. |
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If we are just looking at current civilian sales I would still think 1911s sell more. There are a ton of companies making them and they sell well enough that more companies are adding them to their line up.
I currently hold even sales numbers with 2 1911s and 2 Glocks personally. |
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I believe that Beretta sells a total of over 5 million each year and Glock sells 2.5 million to all customers including military, police, and private sales.
I don't have figures for the total number of 1911s produced by all manufacturers but I doubt it reaches those levels. |
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That is the most absurd thing I've ever seen on the internet.
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This doesn't count the number of guns imported, so Springfield Armory is missing around 40,000-50,000 per year, and the guys like RIA and the other philappino guns aren't accounted for. http://www.atf.gov/statistics/download/afmer/2008-firearms-manufacturers-export-report.pdf You will see that it has Glock at 75K in 2008, Kimber has 62k, Colt has 23k. I'm just not seeing how there are more Glocks sold than 1911's. |
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Quoted: Perhaps this has been asked before, but I couldn't find an answer... Which sells more, 1911 or Glock? Does anyone know? To be specific, has anyone ever taken the time to determine the sales figures on 1911-style pistols from the larger factory manufacturers (Colt, S&W, Sig, Remington, Springifeld, Kimber, etc.) and compared them with figures published by Glock on their sales? Methinks Glock might have the edge, especially with all the police sales, but friends and I were debating this. Anyone? Sells more currently? Or has sold more historically? Sells more, I bet Glock, due to Govt and LEO contracts as well as strong market saturation. Everyone and their momma is a Glock armorer. They are inexpensive and easy to learn. Sold more,historically, 1911 because everyone and their momma makes one, and has been for century, along with use in major war era.
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I would say 1911s sell more.
I don't have a 1911 though, wish I do. I have a G27 and am getting either a G17 or G19 in a few months. I'm young and I am trying to build up my practical collection of firearms. When I get to making some better money, I will buy a 1911. I'm glad that the rest of the country views my two favorite pistols the same way. |
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No real way to accurately tell if you are trying to find which is more liked. If you just look at commercial sales you leave out the huge LE agency sales, but if you add those in you add in the extremely reduced pricing that gun makers give to agencies to get their product out there as free advertising. Do you really think the GA state police paid full price for their Glocks in 45 GAP? I'm willing to bet that the WA State Police didn't come close to paying full price for their M&Ps from Smith & Wesson, but the free marketing S&W got was immense.
It's like when the Ford Taurus was the number 1 selling car in the US. But only because they had large fleet contracts, and I'm pretty sure steep discounts. Car rental companies, business that provided cars, etcetera. |
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I don't know, there are lots of compaies out there making pieces of unreliable shit and only one company making Glocks.
I keed, i keed.
I'd say that in current sales, Glocks are probably outselling 1911s, but it's hard to say. If you think about all the models from different makers out there it could be pretty close. |
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Perhaps this has been asked before, but I couldn't find an answer... Which sells more, 1911 or Glock? Does anyone know? To be specific, has anyone ever taken the time to determine the sales figures on 1911-style pistols from the larger factory manufacturers (Colt, S&W, Sig, Remington, Springifeld, Kimber, etc.) and compared them with figures published by Glock on their sales? Methinks Glock might have the edge, especially with all the police sales, but friends and I were debating this. Anyone? 1911  vs glock  
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No real way to accurately tell if you are trying to find which is more liked. If you just look at commercial sales you leave out the huge LE agency sales, but if you add those in you add in the extremely reduced pricing that gun makers give to agencies to get their product out there as free advertising. Do you really think the GA state police paid full price for their Glocks in 45 GAP? I'm willing to bet that the WA State Police didn't come close to paying full price for their M&Ps from Smith & Wesson, but the free marketing S&W got was immense. It's like when the Ford Taurus was the number 1 selling car in the US. But only because they had large fleet contracts, and I'm pretty sure steep discounts. Car rental companies, business that provided cars, etcetera. Does anyone in this country pay full price for a Glock in 45 GAP? Not that I've seen. |
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If you don't own both already, you will. I do own both (old Series 70, Ithaca 1911a1 & an STI Trojan - 19 and 21SF) and find them all fantastic in their own right. In fact I think it's some of the attributes of those old GI pistols that are today admired in the Glock (reliable, easy to break down/put together, solid combat accuracy). My intent for the thread was an accounting of what's being sold today. What is the thirst of the pistol-purchasing public? (say that 3 times fast!) Seems as though the nod for annual TOTAL production numbers is still going to the 1911 platform. And while it's clear I respect the Glock, I'm glad that an American design is still being made in America and continues to be popular with all the various groups in the shooting community. |