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4/3/2017 6:41:43 PM EDT
I'm not a big handgun guy but I'm bored with shooting and am looking to try something new. I always liked the looks of a Glock with the custom slides and a RMR installed so I decided to put one together today. I purchased a new gen 4 19 today and the other parts I think I want.

I need help/advice with what sights work correctly and input on anything else I am missing or may need.

I have an Octane 9 I may use but I don't see it being practical for use all the time so I'm not sure if suppressor sights are a must or what it will do to the co-witness aspect of the RMR.

My parts so far are:

ZEV dragonfly slide
ZEV threaded dimpled barrel
ZEV pro magwell
ZEV fulcrum trigger (ultimate kit?)
RMR
G19

I was planning on taking the remaining parts needed off the factory slide to finish it out unless it's not recommended.

The trigger was in stock so I already installed it and used the race disconnecter. I'm not sure it was the correct move or not so any input on that is also appreciated.
4/3/2017 8:15:36 PM EDT
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It looks like you've got it handled.
4/3/2017 8:19:31 PM EDT
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Why a 19 over a 17 if it's getting a reflex sight?
4/3/2017 8:52:52 PM EDT
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Roland builds are using 19s. Sight radius is also not a huge factor if you primarily plan on using an RDS.

Not sure of the OP, but 19 frames fit my hand better.
4/3/2017 9:37:26 PM EDT
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Great, I didn't know if there were any must haves or necessary modifications.
4/3/2017 9:39:35 PM EDT
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Red dots basically negates sight radius. A 19 is a wonderful RMR platform, a 34 or 17l with an RMR is basically a waste of good money.
4/3/2017 9:43:55 PM EDT
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Roland builds are using 19s. Sight radius is also not a huge factor if you primarily plan on using an RDS.

Not sure of the OP, but 19 frames fit my hand better.
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Why a 19 over a 17 if it's getting a reflex sight?
Roland builds are using 19s. Sight radius is also not a huge factor if you primarily plan on using an RDS.

Not sure of the OP, but 19 frames fit my hand better.
I went with the 19 for several reasons

Until I got my 43 I carried a 19 for many years and it's a good "fit" for me. If I decide I don't like the setup it wouldn't hurt my feelings to have another one.

The other deciding factor was if I do decide to run it suppressed I figured the shorter OAL would be better.
4/4/2017 12:28:49 AM EDT
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Ameriglo suppressor sight (.315) or zev co-witness sights (.300) work well with the zev slide.

Yes all the internals of your slide will work with the zev slide, but mind you, if you don't use zev's saftey plunger and spring, your trigger will still be heavy. The "fulcrum" kit usually includes the safety plunger and spring along with 2 firing pin springs, the "ultimate" kit includes a lightened firing pin. Sounds like you bought just the trigger bar/shoe if you had to install a connector (fulcrum kits come with the trigger, connector, and ejector).

Let me know if you need help with anything else.
4/4/2017 12:30:16 AM EDT
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I have 3 Glock 34's running optics and I beg to differ!
4/4/2017 7:24:19 AM EDT
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Ameriglo suppressor sight (.315) or zev co-witness sights (.300) work well with the zev slide.

Yes all the internals of your slide will work with the zev slide, but mind you, if you don't use zev's saftey plunger and spring, your trigger will still be heavy. The "fulcrum" kit usually includes the safety plunger and spring along with 2 firing pin springs, the "ultimate" kit includes a lightened firing pin. Sounds like you bought just the trigger bar/shoe if you had to install a connector (fulcrum kits come with the trigger, connector, and ejector).

Let me know if you need help with anything else.
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Thanks for the info on the sights. I need to order some today and I wasn't clear on heights.

The trigger kit I bought came with firing pin and other parts you mentioned. What I'm not clear on is the connector. The kit came with a solid connector installed that appeared to be just like the stock one and another one in a bag with holes in it marked as a race connector. I removed the solid one and installed the race connector but I'm not sure if I should have. I'm ignorant on what that will change.
4/4/2017 8:12:12 AM EDT
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None of my kits came with a factory connector, so you did the right thing. I also run the 3 lbs firing pin springs Bc the 2 lb is too light for me
4/4/2017 9:56:32 AM EDT
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I have 3 Glock 34's running optics and I beg to differ!
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You disagree that it negates sight radius or that it's a waste of good money.

Seems like you have endless gun money with that pile of glocks. So I'm sure you'd agree that your scenario seems to be a bit unique. For the rest of us with limited funds able to dedicate to that level of redundancy, discerning choices need to be made.
4/4/2017 10:18:19 AM EDT
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I've had bad luck with Zev triggers.  In my experience they disable the striker block.  I'd recommend SSVi or Overwatch Precision over Zev.
4/4/2017 1:23:42 PM EDT
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You disagree that it negates sight radius or that it's a waste of good money.

Seems like you have endless gun money with that pile of glocks. So I'm sure you'd agree that your scenario seems to be a bit unique. For the rest of us with limited funds able to dedicate to that level of redundancy, discerning choices need to be made.
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That it's a waste of good money. But also thought the sight radius may not come into play for sight purposes due to red dot, the length of the slide helps me point the gun straighter down range. Ultimately it's muscle memory, but when you have dozens of guns, sometimes you need help getting back to different platforms.
4/4/2017 1:27:58 PM EDT
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I've had bad luck with Zev triggers.  In my experience they disable the striker block.  I'd recommend SSVi or Overwatch Precision over Zev.
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I've had issues with their trigger system not working in certain frames. Zev's answer is that the frames and built from a mold that may have variations in tolerance, they can/will send you parts to change out that will work with your set up. I have quite a few different pistols so I can swap parts till it works. But not many have 7-8 zev trigger kits laying around.

Also I've heard deus ex machina (which looks just like the overwatch trigger/bar) disables the firing pin block also.
4/4/2017 1:32:04 PM EDT
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I've had issues with their trigger system not working in certain frames. Zev's answer is that the frames and built from a mold that may have variations in tolerance, they can/will send you parts to change out that will work with your set up. I have quite a few different pistols so I can swap parts till it works. But not many have 7-8 zev trigger kits laying around.

Also I've heard deus ex machina (which looks just like the overwatch trigger/bar) disables the firing pin block also.
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I've had bad luck with Zev triggers.  In my experience they disable the striker block.  I'd recommend SSVi or Overwatch Precision over Zev.
I've had issues with their trigger system not working in certain frames. Zev's answer is that the frames and built from a mold that may have variations in tolerance, they can/will send you parts to change out that will work with your set up. I have quite a few different pistols so I can swap parts till it works. But not many have 7-8 zev trigger kits laying around.

Also I've heard deus ex machina (which looks just like the overwatch trigger/bar) disables the firing pin block also.
They wanted me to pay to send my gun to them for fitting.  No thanks.  I'm not paying an FFL to send it via USPS and I'm not paying the stupid rates for FedEx or UPS for their part not working in my gun.

To clarify, mine had a lot more problems than just the safety.  It wouldn't reset without a NY spring, and even with that reset was weak.  It dropped the striker on release, which is how I found out about the striker block being disabled.  What should have been a click as the striker hit the block was instead a boom.
4/4/2017 1:45:24 PM EDT
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They wanted me to pay to send my gun to them for fitting.  No thanks.  I'm not paying an FFL to send it via USPS and I'm not paying the stupid rates for FedEx or UPS for their part not working in my gun.

To clarify, mine had a lot more problems than just the safety.  It wouldn't reset without a NY spring, and even with that reset was weak.  It dropped the striker on release, which is how I found out about the striker block being disabled.  What should have been a click as the striker hit the block was instead a boom.
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I had the same issue on my Glock 34, I was getting 2-3 round "strings" and realized it was firing on reset. I did have the lighter firing pin spring in there at the time. But I had a spare kit at home, and the other kit seemed to work well with this lower/slide combo.  I called zev though, and they said there is a "connector kit" that they can ship me. Also you need to make sure the trigger return spring wasn't caught on the trigger bar at a funny angle.  In hindsight it was a lot of money invested to get my pistols running the way I wanted to, but now that they are all running the proper parts, they run well. And I do not get the "mushy" feel of say another brand trigger, with after market connector, trigger return spring etc. My triggers still have a tactile reset and break point.  I'm surprised that they wanted you to send the gun in btw.
4/7/2017 1:19:52 PM EDT
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I got everything in but my barrel and sights. The shop I had order the barrel said before he submitted his order someone else bought all the distributor had. It appears to be on backorder through Zev too. Anyone know of a reputable place that may have a stainless, dimpled and threaded 19 barrel in stock?
4/7/2017 1:58:58 PM EDT
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I got everything in but my barrel and sights. The shop I had order the barrel said before he submitted his order someone else bought all the distributor had. It appears to be on backorder through Zev too. Anyone know of a reputable place that may have a stainless, dimpled and threaded 19 barrel in stock?
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Looks good!

https://www.silencershop.com/zev-tech-match-grade-glock-barrels.html