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1/2/2014 1:49:49 PM EDT
1/2/2014 3:31:36 PM EDT
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Need more green on that map.
1/2/2014 4:28:55 PM EDT
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Agreed.  If we could just get more blue on there (especially the non-resident map) it would be helpful though.
1/2/2014 4:46:50 PM EDT
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Agreed.  If we could just get more blue on there (especially the non-resident map) it would be helpful though.
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Agreed.  If we could just get more blue on there (especially the non-resident map) it would be helpful though.

Yep, I would like to see shall issue states start to invest more time and energy into expanding reciprocity with as many other states as possible.
1/2/2014 4:53:39 PM EDT
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Yep, I would like to see shall issue states start to invest more time and energy into expanding reciprocity with as many other states as possible.
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Need more green on that map.

Agreed.  If we could just get more blue on there (especially the non-resident map) it would be helpful though.

Yep, I would like to see shall issue states start to invest more time and energy into expanding reciprocity with as many other states as possible.

It's easy, just do like IA/KS/AL (at least) did in 2013 and simply recognize all permits for non-residents.
1/3/2014 10:37:14 PM EDT
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Thank you for this map.  My dad just retired and is looking to move out of LA county to be closer to the rest of the family.  I will show him this and hopefully he will end up in San Bernardino which from other online forums I have seen is the best bet in SoCal.  


Ideally, he would just leave CA and move here to TX with me but he is pretty determined so this is great news.  He just picked up his first handgun a few days ago and even if he doesn't get a CCW, I think the counties where they exist are def the places to live.
1/4/2014 5:15:51 AM EDT
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Great to finally see Illinois on there.  I just wish they were a little more friendly with other states.  You should see the B.S.  They are making us do for the 16hrs of training.
1/4/2014 5:23:27 AM EDT
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As some one who is color blind, I wish the people that put these maps out would use different colors. I see 4 colors in the legend ( there are 2 yellows) and have a really hard time telling the difference between the red and brown on the map.
1/4/2014 8:32:39 AM EDT
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Thank you for this map.  My dad just retired and is looking to move out of LA county to be closer to the rest of the family.  I will show him this and hopefully he will end up in San Bernardino which from other online forums I have seen is the best bet in SoCal.  

Ideally, he would just leave CA and move here to TX with me but he is pretty determined so this is great news.  He just picked up his first handgun a few days ago and even if he doesn't get a CCW, I think the counties where they exist are def the places to live.
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Thank you for this map.  My dad just retired and is looking to move out of LA county to be closer to the rest of the family.  I will show him this and hopefully he will end up in San Bernardino which from other online forums I have seen is the best bet in SoCal.  

Ideally, he would just leave CA and move here to TX with me but he is pretty determined so this is great news.  He just picked up his first handgun a few days ago and even if he doesn't get a CCW, I think the counties where they exist are def the places to live.

The CA and NY county stuff was reconstituted from discussion that I found online and has no guarantee of accuracy, just intended to graphically represent the mess that exists in those states.

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As some one who is color blind, I wish the people that put these maps out would use different colors. I see 4 colors in the legend ( there are 2 yellows) and have a really hard time telling the difference between the red and brown on the map.

What are some good colors that work for you?  Which of the names on there are the colors that are hard to tell apart? I can try redoing it in different colors. Using textures or stripes or something would work on the big size states but in the northeast it would be about impossible to see anything.
1/4/2014 3:25:33 PM EDT
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I'm red-green color blind, and everyone is different but I will do my best to help you out. To understand color blindness you have to understand that your eye has a 4 types of color sensors. You have 1 set for each of the primary colors and 1 set that sees black and white. All people see in black and white at night. So, I throw red right out of the color wheel. I just don't see red. I have lots of trouble with blue (primary color) and purple ( red+blue) because I don't see red. I see brown, green and red the same way for the same reason. I usually see red as a shade of green, so red, green, and brown, pick only one. Black and a medium to light shade of gray would be colors that everyone could see. I also have problems with yellow and light or pale greens for some reason. On your map "constitutional carry" and "may issue, generally approved" are the same color for me.
1/4/2014 4:32:39 PM EDT
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I'm red-green color blind, and everyone is different but I will do my best to help you out. To understand color blindness you have to understand that your eye has a 4 types of color sensors. You have 1 set for each of the primary colors and 1 set that sees black and white. All people see in black and white at night. So, I throw red right out of the color wheel. I just don't see red. I have lots of trouble with blue (primary color) and purple ( red+blue) because I don't see red. I see brown, green and red the same way for the same reason. I usually see red as a shade of green, so red, green, and brown, pick only one. Black and a medium to light shade of gray would be colors that everyone could see. I also have problems with yellow and light or pale greens for some reason. On your map "constitutional carry" and "may issue, generally approved" are the same color for me.
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I have a bit of understanding of color theory (photo school ) so I'll see if I can come up with an alternative, may be a few days with the winter storm coming in.

On the map colors you mentioned, "constitutional carry" is basically primary green, and "may issue, generally approved" is pretty close to primary yellow.  For reference the "shall issue" is a royal blue, the "may issue, variable" is a dull orange, and the "no issue" is pretty close to a primary red.  I'll try to come up with some alternative colors as well as vary the lightness a bit.  It's pretty easy in photoshop to just take out a color channel or vary them, so that might give me a better perception of how the image would appear.  I did some study on color perception with color blindness a while back while I was researching camouflage but most of that isn't coming to mind right away.

One question for you though, when you say you have trouble with blue, is it that you don't see the blue color, or that you have a hard time distinguishing the blue from purple?
1/4/2014 5:04:37 PM EDT
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For me it breaks down like this:

All blues/purples and any shades thereof are too close to differentiate
Greens and yellows are too close too call.
Brown orange red and green are to close too call.

Non colorblind people have no idea how hard color coded things are for us.  i can see the different colors as shades - for example orange may look like light green, green is medium, brown is dark green

The stupid buckets of crayons with no labels in kindergarten were the worst



1/5/2014 7:24:18 AM EDT
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I have a bit of understanding of color theory (photo school ) so I'll see if I can come up with an alternative, may be a few days with the winter storm coming in.

On the map colors you mentioned, "constitutional carry" is basically primary green, and "may issue, generally approved" is pretty close to primary yellow.  For reference the "shall issue" is a royal blue, the "may issue, variable" is a dull orange, and the "no issue" is pretty close to a primary red.  I'll try to come up with some alternative colors as well as vary the lightness a bit.  It's pretty easy in photoshop to just take out a color channel or vary them, so that might give me a better perception of how the image would appear.  I did some study on color perception with color blindness a while back whilDe I was researching camouflage but most of that isn't coming to mind right away.

One question for you though, when you say you have trouble with blue, is it that you don't see the blue color, or that you have a hard time distinguishing the blue from purple?
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I'm red-green color blind, and everyone is different but I will do my best to help you out. To understand color blindness you have to understand that your eye has a 4 types of color sensors. You have 1 set for each of the primary colors and 1 set that sees black and white. All people see in black and white at night. So, I throw red right out of the color wheel. I just don't see red. I have lots of trouble with blue (primary color) and purple ( red+blue) because I don't see red. I see brown, green and red the same way for the same reason. I usually see red as a shade of green, so red, green, and brown, pick only one. Black and a medium to light shade of gray would be colors that everyone could see. I also have problems with yellow and light or pale greens for some reason. On your map "constitutional carry" and "may issue, generally approved" are the same color for me.

I have a bit of understanding of color theory (photo school ) so I'll see if I can come up with an alternative, may be a few days with the winter storm coming in.

On the map colors you mentioned, "constitutional carry" is basically primary green, and "may issue, generally approved" is pretty close to primary yellow.  For reference the "shall issue" is a royal blue, the "may issue, variable" is a dull orange, and the "no issue" is pretty close to a primary red.  I'll try to come up with some alternative colors as well as vary the lightness a bit.  It's pretty easy in photoshop to just take out a color channel or vary them, so that might give me a better perception of how the image would appear.  I did some study on color perception with color blindness a while back whilDe I was researching camouflage but most of that isn't coming to mind right away.

One question for you though, when you say you have trouble with blue, is it that you don't see the blue color, or that you have a hard time distinguishing the blue from purple?


I have a very hard time telling blue from purple. Over the years I have come to the conclusion that I don't see red at all. Also, green is not a primary color. Yellow + blue = green. I may have more color deficiencies than than I know about too. My wife has a bachelor of fine arts and sees color in a completely opposite way that I do, so we have some interesting conversations about colors.
1/5/2014 9:37:07 AM EDT
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TIL: everyone on this site is color-blind
1/5/2014 10:00:00 AM EDT
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http://www.atmos.ucla.edu/~fovell/AS3/theory_of_color.html

This is reasonably informative.

The red receptor response in the low blue/violet part of the spectrum is why people usually perceive optical blue at the bottom of the spectrum as a combination of colors, whereas to get a perceived clean blue you have to go higher up the spectrum, closer to cyan.  And why if you don't perceive red, you can't tell the difference between "blue" and "violet".
1/5/2014 11:46:28 AM EDT
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The CA and NY county stuff was reconstituted from discussion that I found online and has no guarantee of accuracy, just intended to graphically represent the mess that exists in those states.


What are some good colors that work for you?  Which of the names on there are the colors that are hard to tell apart? I can try redoing it in different colors. Using textures or stripes or something would work on the big size states but in the northeast it would be about impossible to see anything.
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Thank you for this map.  My dad just retired and is looking to move out of LA county to be closer to the rest of the family.  I will show him this and hopefully he will end up in San Bernardino which from other online forums I have seen is the best bet in SoCal.  

Ideally, he would just leave CA and move here to TX with me but he is pretty determined so this is great news.  He just picked up his first handgun a few days ago and even if he doesn't get a CCW, I think the counties where they exist are def the places to live.

The CA and NY county stuff was reconstituted from discussion that I found online and has no guarantee of accuracy, just intended to graphically represent the mess that exists in those states.

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As some one who is color blind, I wish the people that put these maps out would use different colors. I see 4 colors in the legend ( there are 2 yellows) and have a really hard time telling the difference between the red and brown on the map.

What are some good colors that work for you?  Which of the names on there are the colors that are hard to tell apart? I can try redoing it in different colors. Using textures or stripes or something would work on the big size states but in the northeast it would be about impossible to see anything.

I checked on Calguns and San Bernardino is practically a Shall Issue county
1/6/2014 9:22:59 AM EDT
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SC really needs to get its act together. I hate to say it, but I do my best not to spend any $$$ there when I make my almost monthly trips to/from NC.
1/6/2014 9:28:05 AM EDT
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SC really needs to get its act together. I hate to say it, but I do my best not to spend any $$$ there when I make my almost monthly trips to/from NC.
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True, for all the pronouncements about how "gun friendly" SC is, they have poor CCW laws.
1/6/2014 2:21:02 PM EDT
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As an experiment for the folks with color perception problems, what do you see on this map?

It doesn't look real good because I lost all the borders and such, it's just a color experiment.  Just curious if how I think it would look is actually how it looks.

(for those with photoshop, try viewing that with a color mixer layer and reduce the red and green to almost nothing.)

1/7/2014 1:21:15 PM EDT
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Here's a version just in B&W.
1/7/2014 1:34:49 PM EDT
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Fuck, Maine, New Hampshire and Vermont are surrounded with no escape route.
 
1/7/2014 1:42:26 PM EDT
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Amazingly enough, they might well be able to navigate the Canadian firearms regulations and permits and be able to transit through Canada.  Unlike say New York.  IIRC Canada will issue licenses to anyone, even nonresident aliens who complete the checks and requirements.
1/8/2014 2:11:56 AM EDT
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Amazingly enough, they might well be able to navigate the Canadian firearms regulations and permits and be able to transit through Canada.  Unlike say New York.  IIRC Canada will issue licenses to anyone, even nonresident aliens who complete the checks and requirements.
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Fuck, Maine, New Hampshire and Vermont are surrounded with no escape route.  

Amazingly enough, they might well be able to navigate the Canadian firearms regulations and permits and be able to transit through Canada.  Unlike say New York.  IIRC Canada will issue licenses to anyone, even nonresident aliens who complete the checks and requirements.

Wow.  thats weird
1/8/2014 8:59:25 AM EDT
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As some one who is color blind, I wish the people that put these maps out would use different colors. I see 4 colors in the legend ( there are 2 yellows) and have a really hard time telling the difference between the red and brown on the map.
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Me too buddy. I appreciate you guys helping out with the different colored maps!
1/8/2014 3:35:02 PM EDT
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DoubleTap
1/8/2014 3:36:23 PM EDT
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As an experiment for the folks with color perception problems, what do you see on this map?

It doesn't look real good because I lost all the borders and such, it's just a color experiment.  Just curious if how I think it would look is actually how it looks.

(for those with photoshop, try viewing that with a color mixer layer and reduce the red and green to almost nothing.)

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This one I can see, the last two colors are close and take some concentration to see, but doable.

thank you!

1/8/2014 5:10:08 PM EDT
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Never trust these things. Laws hange daily. Always check the state law enforcements web page for where you plan on going. Also a good idea to print it oit and carey it with you for clueless cops
1/8/2014 5:53:43 PM EDT
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Never trust these things. Laws hange daily. Always check the state law enforcements web page for where you plan on going. Also a good idea to print it oit and carey it with you for clueless cops
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It's not intended as a legal reference, just a general visual representation of the state of carry in the US.
1/8/2014 6:07:10 PM EDT
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1/8/2014 7:35:46 PM EDT
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Arkansas enacted a constitutional carry law last year. But the democrats currently running the state say they were tricked, and the law doesn't mean what it says.
1/8/2014 8:33:28 PM EDT
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Arkansas enacted a constitutional carry law last year. But the democrats currently running the state say they were tricked, and the law doesn't mean what it says.
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I'm aware of that controversy.  Last I knew it was advised to not rely on that for carry authority.

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1/10/2014 1:10:06 PM EDT
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Your new color choices are fantastic! Also digging the black &white. That would work just fine for me too.