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6/19/2010 7:49:46 AM EDT
I have a 627 which carries so nice in my S&W holster from Desantis. I would like to use this as a carry gun for woods/hiking/hunting carry. Does anyone have recommendations for optimal bullet weight and type?





I have been mostly using the Rem 158gr for general plinking. I was wondering if 125's would give better penetration due to higher velocity. As a handloader, all options are open.





Thanks.

 
6/19/2010 9:42:38 AM EDT
[#1]
170 gr or 180 solid bullets loaded to 1100 fps will work to get really deep penetration using the 357 mag. Avoid hollow points if you want penetration.
6/19/2010 10:20:11 AM EDT
[#2]
I would go with the 158 gr bullets you would get more penetration with heaver bullets.
6/19/2010 2:10:40 PM EDT
[#3]
Varmints of the 2 and 4 legged variety, 125 grain jacketed hollow points.

Deer type critters, 158 grain JSP.

If you expect to encounter larger game or bears, Federal 180 grain Cast Core or the Buffalo Bore 180 grain Lead Flat nose.

ETA: If you're reloading, you can get the 180 grain RNFP lead from Cast Performance.
6/19/2010 4:55:03 PM EDT
[#4]



Quoted:


Varmints of the 2 and 4 legged variety, 125 grain jacketed hollow points.



Deer type critters, 158 grain JSP.



If you expect to encounter larger game or bears, Federal 180 grain Cast Core or the Buffalo Bore 180 grain Lead Flat nose.



ETA: If you're reloading, you can get the 180 grain RNFP lead from Cast Performance.


Thanks!



 
6/19/2010 6:58:55 PM EDT
[#5]
Just in case you don't want to deal with the potential pitfalls involved with shooting cast bullets, I thought i'd add this option:

Remington 180 grain HP is a bullet that I have loaded in my 4" GP100.

I used 13.0 grains of H110, heavy crimp and magnum primers.    I remember getting around 1180fps over my chrony with this load.   Your shorter barrel might lose 60-100fps.    This load is max/close to max, so you would probably want to work up to it.  The Hodgdon website lists 13.5 grains as max with the Nosler bullet of this weight.

I have read that this bullet was designed for the .357 maximum, so it would probably hold together/penetrate very well if that's your main objective.
6/19/2010 7:00:57 PM EDT
[#6]
Hornady XTPs have a pretty good rep as a deep penetrator with controlled expansion.
6/19/2010 7:30:09 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Just in case you don't want to deal with the potential pitfalls involved with shooting cast bullets, I thought i'd add this option:

-snip-.


There are no pitfalls to shooting the gas checked 180 grain loads I mentioned or the gas checked Cast Performance bullets.
6/19/2010 7:44:32 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:


There are no pitfalls to shooting the gas checked 180 grain loads I mentioned or the gas checked Cast Performance bullets.


Sorry but IMO, you can't say that not knowing his particular gun (what his bore slugs/how tight his throats are/etc).



6/19/2010 7:49:08 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Quoted:


There are no pitfalls to shooting the gas checked 180 grain loads I mentioned or the gas checked Cast Performance bullets.


Sorry but IMO, you can't say that not knowing his particular gun (what his bore slugs/how tight his throats are/etc).






Well, opinions vary. If they were plain base I'd agree. But with gas checks on pistol bullets, no problems.
6/19/2010 8:36:34 PM EDT
[#10]
I got one loaded up using 145 grain Silvertips with AA9 powder from my stash of those  bullets that does a nice job I think out of my GP100 .Caught a deer running by in a late season drive from my stump I had parked my ass on while the walkers pushed thru and hit in in the neck at about 25 yards and he  dropped almost right away
6/19/2010 11:12:09 PM EDT
[#11]
175 grain cast Keith SWC at around 1150 fps is fine for a woods-walking load. Recoil is mild enough that it's not difficult to shoot, and the round penetrates as good as any .357 I've seen.



6/20/2010 12:37:11 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Hornady XTPs have a pretty good rep as a deep penetrator with controlled expansion.


I load the 180 XTPs in my .357 woods loads.
6/20/2010 5:10:11 AM EDT
[#13]
Thanks all. Certainly some good things to consider here. My usual plinking loads are cast, so that is not a problem.
6/20/2010 6:22:45 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
175 grain cast Keith SWC at around 1150 fps is fine for a woods-walking load. Recoil is mild enough that it's not difficult to shoot, and the round penetrates as good as any .357 I've seen.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b53/vanilla_gorilla911/casting045.jpg


+1



6/20/2010 7:13:12 PM EDT
[#15]
Bah!



6/20/2010 11:08:59 PM EDT
[#16]








I made mine.
6/21/2010 3:15:47 AM EDT
[#17]


So did I.
6/21/2010 5:15:43 AM EDT
[#18]




Quoted:







So did I.




Srsly? Looked like the generic shipping-friendly lube on the bullet. What weight do those drop at?
6/21/2010 5:48:14 AM EDT
[#19]
158 or heavier, I wouldn't use a 125 on anything regardless of how many legs it had.
6/21/2010 6:40:48 AM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
175 grain cast Keith SWC at around 1150 fps is fine for a woods-walking load. Recoil is mild enough that it's not difficult to shoot, and the round penetrates as good as any .357 I've seen.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b53/vanilla_gorilla911/casting045.jpg


THIS is the correct answer.
6/21/2010 8:44:07 AM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:

Srsly? Looked like the generic shipping-friendly lube on the bullet. What weight do those drop at?


That's because it is the generic shipping friendly lube. I came across a terrific deal on a dozen commercial sticks of Ballisticast lube about 10 years ago. They're about 3" D X 12" long. I know a lot of folks don't like the hard lube, but it has worked just fine for me in higher speed/pressure applications.

The mold is a custom Lee 6 banger from the first Cast Boolits forum group buy. Using my stanadard range scrap alloy, it drops at 185 grains before lube and check.