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7/19/2007 6:58:37 AM EDT
I've been going nuts doing side-by-side comparison between the 90-2 and an Italian 92FS. someone tell what's the "improvement" with the 90-2?
7/19/2007 7:07:55 AM EDT
[#1]
SWAT has a write up on the 90-two this month. As I remember it there is a rail and cover, it has the better finish (whatever that's called), the take down lever flips back to the original position, it has strange night sights that require exposure to light before they will illuminate for 30 minutes (but I guess they don't eventually wear out like trijicons). The pistol they tested was not terribly accurate and had a terrible trigger pull from the sounds of it.
7/20/2007 7:47:27 AM EDT
[#2]
90Two also has the new grip that can be replaced with the smaller one if needed.
AFAIK the slide is reinforced in the Brigadier fashion although it's countoured slightly differently.
It has a hard chromed bore so you don't need to clean it unless you want to
The sights' white dots are indeed painted with a "phosphorous" paint that glows in the dark if they have first been exposed to light, at least for a while they are as bright as tritium sights (haven't tried how long it takes for them to fade).

Mine shoots 2" 5 shot groups offhand at 25 meters with cheap ammo (S&B).
Trigger (SA) was somewhat stiffer than I'm used to (spoilt by semi-custom 1911s etc) but pretty crisp. Replacing the mainspring with a Wolff reduced power one reduced the trigger pull a bit, it's better now.

Fit and finish is good.

Do they make 90Twos in the USA or are they all made in Italy? FWIW mine is made in Italy (I've been told that the US made "M9s" are not as good especially in terms of fit and finish as the Italian 92s).
7/20/2007 7:49:32 AM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
SWAT has a write up on the 90-two this month. As I remember it there is a rail and cover, it has the better finish (whatever that's called), the take down lever flips back to the original position, it has strange night sights that require exposure to light before they will illuminate for 30 minutes (but I guess they don't eventually wear out like trijicons). The pistol they tested was not terribly accurate and had a terrible trigger pull from the sounds of it.


"Glow in the dark" technology?  Trijicons will wear out... in a couple of years.  Replacing sights every few years seems a better bargain than only having 30min of visibility; that seems kind of absurd for anyone that, oh, keeps it in a holster or anything..  
7/20/2007 7:57:52 AM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:

Quoted:
SWAT has a write up on the 90-two this month. As I remember it there is a rail and cover, it has the better finish (whatever that's called), the take down lever flips back to the original position, it has strange night sights that require exposure to light before they will illuminate for 30 minutes (but I guess they don't eventually wear out like trijicons). The pistol they tested was not terribly accurate and had a terrible trigger pull from the sounds of it.


"Glow in the dark" technology?  Trijicons will wear out... in a couple of years.  Replacing sights every few years seems a better bargain than only having 30min of visibility; that seems kind of absurd for anyone that, oh, keeps it in a holster or anything..  


I agree. I can see it's use on a hunting rifle like the Bushnells, you just shine a light in the scope and it's good for the hour after dark. But on a defensive pistol? WTF? "Oh I heard a noise downstairs, let me shine my surefire on my pistol and wreck my nightvision before I go look.
7/20/2007 1:03:06 PM EDT
[#5]
If a person is only going to get one beretta, then get a 92FS or an M9.

I currently own a 92FS Brigadier, I bought it for local competition, and becaase it is a beautiful handgun. It shoots well, and is a great gun.

I now own a 90-two in .40sw, for duty use. It is better than the 96 in that it has less percieved recoil, and the rail certainly cannot hurt. When I buy a new gun, the first two range sessions I focus solely on function. I couldn't hit the broad side of the barn with it, the first time I shot it. Now I'm shooting amazing groups, and with a 40 which is amazing. As far the sights go, they absorb light instantly, so if I draw it, and I walk into a lighted bulding they charge up. If I'm in a situation where it is very dark, I'm goin to have a flashlight drawn with the it, so giving them a charge is not a hard thing to do. If you have a home defense gun its needs a flashlight companion, because going through the darkness with just a gun is very fool hardy. Would trijicons be better? yes, of course. Do I have an extra $300 right now? No. By the way when adrenaline hits, good luck getting sight alignment, because its pretty much a point and shoot ball game after that. Just see how much ammunition is expended in combat, compared to actually hits.

Get the 92FS if you want a good 9mm defense/range gun, if you want something for defense/range with a few good extras get the 90-two. As far as improvements go, they include a rail, recoil buffer, "better than white dot" sights, its edges are rounded for better holstering, different grip sizes. However the 90-twos grips are really slippery, so a hogue slip on is a must.
7/20/2007 1:08:46 PM EDT
[#6]
I had both and sold the 90-two because other than having a rail it didn't do anything better.
The novelty wore off and I didn't want it anymore.
They felt and operated identically in my hands.
8/3/2007 9:55:09 AM EDT
[#7]
There the same execpt th 90 -2 has a rail, changable grip and 13 less moving parts.  But you can get parts and acessories for the 92fs super easy and cheap so I'd go with it.