Posted: 1/11/2015 4:12:00 PM EDT
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Anybody try one? Will it fit on a gen 4?
http://soldiersystems.net/2015/01/09/the-alg-defense-6-second-mount-is-finally-here/ |
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They've shown this at SHOT for the past few years, but it hasn't ever been available for sale. I thought it was very cool, with my only "complaint" being how far down it drops the light. The Surefire DG switch or Streamlight switch won't work with it. Also with either a Surefire or Streamlight, the support hand has to positioned much lower to activate the switches.
That and no compatibility with existing holsters means it is a specialized application part. Or you have to do with a custom kydex or universal nylon holster setup. Still, I've always thought it was cool, and a good way to mount a red dot. |
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I was thinking about trying this on my g17 with one of the new PA red dots until I saw the price, $250 seems a little steep for this. They have to pay for a half million dollar machine that they make them on. I'm sure this isn't the only thing that half million dollar machine is making. |
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I was thinking about trying this on my g17 with one of the new PA red dots until I saw the price, $250 seems a little steep for this. They have to pay for a half million dollar machine that they make them on. I'm sure this isn't the only thing that half million dollar machine is making. Maybe, maybe not. |
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The ALG is cool, but the lack of BUIS is gonna make finding the dot hard. Odd you would think this. There are thousands of comp shooters using slide mounted optics sans buis without any issues taking their first shot. This is a product designed to meet the requirements of a DOD group. It was not designed for mass market appeal. We are lucky they are available on the civilian market. Probably help offset the costs of R&D. I can't wait to get one of these for a spare G17 and PA red dot that I have. And I already have a G19 with a slide mounted RMR. |
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Odd you would think this. There are thousands of comp shooters using slide mounted optics sans buis without any issues taking their first shot. This is a product designed to meet the requirements of a DOD group. It was not designed for mass market appeal. We are lucky they are available on the civilian market. Probably help offset the costs of R&D. I can't wait to get one of these for a spare G17 and PA red dot that I have. And I already have a G19 with a slide mounted RMR. Quoted:
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The ALG is cool, but the lack of BUIS is gonna make finding the dot hard. Odd you would think this. There are thousands of comp shooters using slide mounted optics sans buis without any issues taking their first shot. This is a product designed to meet the requirements of a DOD group. It was not designed for mass market appeal. We are lucky they are available on the civilian market. Probably help offset the costs of R&D. I can't wait to get one of these for a spare G17 and PA red dot that I have. And I already have a G19 with a slide mounted RMR. With the ALG mount, you can use the Primary Arms Reflex Sight and save some weight and space. I asked PA if this was safe to use on the rail and he said yeah. Until I can afford a RMR. |
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Odd you would think this. There are thousands of comp shooters using slide mounted optics sans buis without any issues taking their first shot. This is a product designed to meet the requirements of a DOD group. It was not designed for mass market appeal. We are lucky they are available on the civilian market. Probably help offset the costs of R&D. I can't wait to get one of these for a spare G17 and PA red dot that I have. And I already have a G19 with a slide mounted RMR. Quoted:
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The ALG is cool, but the lack of BUIS is gonna make finding the dot hard. Odd you would think this. There are thousands of comp shooters using slide mounted optics sans buis without any issues taking their first shot. This is a product designed to meet the requirements of a DOD group. It was not designed for mass market appeal. We are lucky they are available on the civilian market. Probably help offset the costs of R&D. I can't wait to get one of these for a spare G17 and PA red dot that I have. And I already have a G19 with a slide mounted RMR. It's my opinion. I don't buy stuff because SF/Rangers/SEALS use it. I buy stuff because it's intuitive, it works, and it's solid. Not saying that the ALG mount isn't, but you seem to throw around the "it was created for the DoD" thing like it's a selling point. |
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It's my opinion. I don't buy stuff because SF/Rangers/SEALS use it. I buy stuff because it's intuitive, it works, and it's solid. Not saying that the ALG mount isn't, but you seem to throw around the "it was created for the DoD" thing like it's a selling point. It sounds more to me like he's saying that it was made for a specific martial purpose and also being offered to civilians. If it fits your needs too, great. If not, don't buy it. With the round tubular aimpoint your eye will automatically try to center the tube and the dot should be there. It will likely take a while to get it down 100%, but likely less than it initially takes most shooters to master irons. With the RMR there is not as much feedback because the bilaterally symmetrical lens offers less visual feedback when it's off center. I'm probably going to get one of these. I was unhappy with the slide mounted RMR on a Glock 19. I probably picked the wrong one, but it was several years ago, and the battery operated units weren't holding up very well yet. My carry pistol is, and shall remain, an M&P Shield. If the 6SM G17 proves itself (or more likely if the learning curve proves it isn't too steep for me) I think it would make a good HD gun for my needs. |
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With the ALG mount, you can use the Primary Arms Reflex Sight and save some weight and space. I asked PA if this was safe to use on the rail and he said yeah. Until I can afford a RMR. No you can't. The ALG mount was designed for the T1 and nothing else. There aren't mounting holes for any other optic |
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It's my opinion. I don't buy stuff because SF/Rangers/SEALS use it. I buy stuff because it's intuitive, it works, and it's solid. Not saying that the ALG mount isn't, but you seem to throw around the "it was created for the DoD" thing like it's a selling point. Quoted:
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The ALG is cool, but the lack of BUIS is gonna make finding the dot hard. Odd you would think this. There are thousands of comp shooters using slide mounted optics sans buis without any issues taking their first shot. This is a product designed to meet the requirements of a DOD group. It was not designed for mass market appeal. We are lucky they are available on the civilian market. Probably help offset the costs of R&D. I can't wait to get one of these for a spare G17 and PA red dot that I have. And I already have a G19 with a slide mounted RMR. It's my opinion. I don't buy stuff because SF/Rangers/SEALS use it. I buy stuff because it's intuitive, it works, and it's solid. Not saying that the ALG mount isn't, but you seem to throw around the "it was created for the DoD" thing like it's a selling point. No, we keep mentioning who it was designed for as a reminder as to why IT WONT WORK FOR YOU and the hundreds of other people with negative things to say about and can't seem to grasp that simple concept. It wasn't made to fit your needs in optic mounting solution for a handgun. When XYZ company came out with mounts to put C-More optics on Glocks did everyone have a hissy fit about BUIS too? |
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No you can't. The ALG mount was designed for the T1 and nothing else. There aren't mounting holes for any other optic Quoted:
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With the ALG mount, you can use the Primary Arms Reflex Sight and save some weight and space. I asked PA if this was safe to use on the rail and he said yeah. Until I can afford a RMR. No you can't. The ALG mount was designed for the T1 and nothing else. There aren't mounting holes for any other optic Well, then disregard.  I didn't pay attention to that little caveat. That being said, I'm out.
I had decided to forgo the whole thing anyways and sell my 17 for a 226. 
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The Primary Arms has EXACTLY the same mounting profile as the Aimpoint T1/T2.
I'm SURE this will allow either to be mounted. If you wanted an RMR mounted on it, I'd think you could get or fab an adapter (if not, someone could make some money on that idea...since there are so few RMR mounts for ARs...only like 2 or 3 that I can think of...but a cowitness T1/T2 mount could be turned into a 1/3rd height RMR mount I'd bet). -- NOTE: I've even heard that it's NOT JUST for gen 3 guns--that it works with gen 4s as well. I bought a gen4 Glock 17 ($440 OTD like new) just to mount my PA optic on as soon as I get a T2. I'll be using this mount and a Streamlight TLR-1HL (the poor man's copy of the T1 and Surefire, except the TLR-1HL has a nicer tint and switches compared to the Surefire). |