Posted: 9/4/2006 5:16:06 AM EDT
Just wondering what most people think of the captive, steel after market guide rods? The reason I ask is because last year on my G22 I had a problem. I shot an IPSC match with my G22 and did not clean it when I was done About two months later I took it out of the safe to clean it and took it apart and noticed that the plastic end of the OEM rod had broken. I went to my friendly gun store and was given a new recoil spring. As I put it on the slide got stuck for a minute. When I got the slide back off the new OEM guide rod was broken in the same manner. I ordered a new steel captive guide rod from Lone Wolfe Dist. but have not shot a lot with it. I shouldn't have any problems should I?
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Nothing wrong with ss guide rods, I use them all the time. Does your broken guide lood look like this? . . If so the reason YOU are breaking them is because they are not installed properly. You need to make sure the barrel end of the rod is completely seated in the half moon cut-out next to the barrel lug. If you don't seat it completely the slide will hang-up when you install it, then when you force the slide on the rest of the way you break the factory rods end(see pic above). When installed correctly the rod will be seated like this:  When you remove the slide the guide rod will not be seated in the cut-out and this is normal. The cut-out is there so you can put the slide on the receiver ONLY. The rod does not set in the cut-out when the slide is installed or when gun is in use. 
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+1 The only broken guide rods that I have seen were caused by improper installation of the guide rod. I was at a local shop a while back. A guy came in to look at a used G19. He took it apart to check the inside of the slide and frame. When he reinstalled the barrel and guide rod/spring he must have not seated it properly. As soon as he installed the slide on the frame and racked it, you could hear a "crunch" sound. He put the gun on the counter and walked out. |
I am 99% sure that I installed the guide rod correctly when I got the new one from the store. I have had Glocks for 14 years and that was the 1st time that I have had a problem with one since I blew up my first G22 (2 times ) Both ammo related. I just thought that since my Glocks are my SHTF, EOTWAWKI handguns that I should changes them out. I do keep 1 spare OEM guide rod for each Glock that will be going if/when the balloon goes up. I just am not sure if I should change them all to steel guide rods or stay with the OEM. Thanks for any input or opinions.
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| Well, since you claim you have had Glocks for so long, I guess it's kind of hard to say you installed the recoil assembly incorrectly. Not impossible to say, just hard to say. But on the other end of the coin. I have eighteen Glocks, the first one having been purchased in early 1997, and I have never had a recoil rod assembly break,chip, bend, or come apart in that time frame. I vote that there is nothing fundamentally wrong with the OEM recoil rod assembly, just like there is nothing wrong with the properly installed OEM sights. |
He wasn't asking about performance. He was trying to keep his OEM rod from breaking. But an aftermarket guide rod can help with performance, because it adds the ability to use different weight springs for tuning to different ammo. |
| Well in a recent Glock book that I purchased they did a 1000rnd rapid fire tourture testr on a G23. They fired 1000 rnds in 17 minutes. At about rnd 985-990 they had 6 malfs in a row. When the test was complete and the pistol was cool enough to tear down to check for damage/problems they found that the stock guide rod had melted and was stuck to the barrel due to the heat. I don't ever plan on firing 1000 rnds in 17 minutes so I guess I will never have to worry about that! I think I will just have to shoot several hundred rounds with it to see what happens! (Just not all as fast as I can pull the trigger!) |
Which book is that?
I've bought 5 glocks, I've never had any fuck ups with the rod breaking. How do you put it back on? |
Why are you asking me how I put them back on? Did you even read all of the posts? Here is mine from above.
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+1 Nothing at all wrong with OEM recoil assembly. OEM sights leave some to be desired for darn sure though if you bang the gun around much. |