Posted: 3/14/2012 7:27:19 AM EDT
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I love every thing about Glocks, their simplicity, their shootability and even the way they look, but it I have a problem, every time I shoot one, no matter what model or caliber, this happens....
http://i.imgur.com/QiJse.jpg Does anyone else ever have a problem with this? |
| Grab a grip force adapter that will add somewhat of a beavertail to the glock, or just make sure you keep the web of your hand pressed firmly up in the grip. It's never personally happened to me, but I've seen it occur to some while shooting my glocks. 99% of the time it's a poor grip on the pistol, and doesn't continue to occur once a proper grip is obatined. Not saying this is why it's happening to you, just what I have seen in my experience. |
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Its a combination of both the slide cutting the web of my hand and the cocking serrations rubbing. This picture was taken durring a combat focus shooting class (BTW it was and awesome course, highly recommend it) after about 150-200 rounds into the first day. I assumed it was only from the slide catching the web of your hand, which can easily be fixed by adjusting your grip. If the serrations on the rear of the slide are also rubbing your hand every shot, you will definitely need to adjust your grip on the gun as that cannot be "fixed" like a slide bite can. I keep a pretty high grip on my glocks, and have never had a slide rubbing issue. |
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The only way I can imagine this happening is if you are using a "thumbs up " or "thumbs high" grip. Try transitioning to a "thumbs forward" grip, where your thumbs ride firm along the frame just below the slide. Should prevent this from happening, and you will probably find it is more stable.
BUT, if you really want us to diagnose the problem, post a picture of you holding the Glock in a firing position so we can analyze your grip and maybe recco a tweak in your position or an aftermarket part to best suit you. Without seeing your grip, it's hard to tell you what to do to avoid the injury. |
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I had the same issue though less severe when I sold my XD(m) for a Glock. After a couple hours of practicing a slightly modified version of how I gripped my XD(m) I never had the problem again. There are ways to use a high/aggressive grip on your glock without getting slide bite you just need to practice what works for you.
Personally I get as high as possible on the tang using a thumbs forward grip but I place my strong hand thumb as far left (right handed) over top my weak hand thumb as possible. I am 6' 9'' and have fairly large hands. This method has a couple benefits for me. It gets the large knuckle of my thumb out of the way of the slide and it prevents me from riding the slide stop. |
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Nope. Shot almost every model Glock, I still can't figure out how people manage to do that. +1 +2 Grip it high and tight...as taught and used on many other makes of handgun when you are trying to drive the gun hard. I am issued a SIg and Sigs require you to grip the frame high in order to drive the gun. When I transition to a Glock, I have the same problem as I try to apply my Sig grip to a Glock frame. Same for many other designs... Glock should have done what Grip Force has done with their adapter. It makes the gun much easier to use as you can drive it faster and harder. |
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+1 on the Grip Force Adapter.
I put one on my 2nd gen G19 recently. I didn't really have the problems with slide bite, I've never found the grip shape/angle to my liking. the grip force Adapter alters the rear of the grip making it slightly straighter, making the gun point more naturally for me. The beaver tail doesn't effect me, but because the gun points better for me now, it's faster to the target, and split times are shorter. It will help the slide bite problem. |
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Magloc Thumb Rest
I shot a Glock with one of these on it once. I think it could help your situation. I liked the feel of it, and I always intended on purchasing one, but I never did. Now that you reminded me I may just have to order one. For 1911 shooters I think they will like the ability to position their thumb on this fake safety for some support. |
Some people with 'meaty' hands have an issue with 'slide bite' as the OP does. Grip Force Adapter's add-on is a cheap ($25) and simple to install remedy to this issue as it makes it impossible for the slide to bite you. In addition, it helps change the Glock's grip angle to more like that of a 1911 for those who prefer that style. I don't have a 'slide bite' issue because my hands are more long and thin, however, I shoot both Glocks and 1911s and noticed that switching between them, I held the Glock muzzle high. I added a Grip Force Adapter and the issue is solved. Here are two pictures of my custom G20/21L both with and without the GFA.  Note that the addition fills in the hollow at the top of the grip which has the effect of straightening it out more like a 1911. GFA recommends that you install it and then file down the piece to fit your particular grip. I haven't done any filing yet as I like the feel so far, however, I may take down the ribs a bit.  |
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Looks like that's what you need. I've never had that problem, so I can't relate.  |
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Quoted: Can't even imagine a grip that would permit the slide serrations to come in contact with the strong hand!! I have large hands and have run a lot of rounds downrange through Glocks. Never had a slide bite yet. Adjust your grip!  "Adjust your grip!" Nope, a neighbor has 'meaty' hands and even though I've worked with him on his grip and he holds it correctly, he does get bit from time to time. It's just the shape of his hand and the meat that sticks up there. He tried my pistol and problem solved. |
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Quoted: Some people with 'meaty' hands have an issue with 'slide bite' as the OP does. Grip Force Adapter's add-on is a cheap ($25) and simple to install remedy to this issue as it makes it impossible for the slide to bite you. In addition, it helps change the Glock's grip angle to more like that of a 1911 for those who prefer that style. I don't have a 'slide bite' issue because my hands are more long and thin, however, I shoot both Glocks and 1911s and noticed that switching between them, I held the Glock muzzle high. I added a Grip Force Adapter and the issue is solved. Here are two pictures of my custom G20/21L both with and without the GFA. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v726/Coloradoglocker/100_0257.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v726/Coloradoglocker/DSCN7880A.jpg Note that the addition fills in the hollow at the top of the grip which has the effect of straightening it out more like a 1911. GFA recommends that you install it and then file down the piece to fit your particular grip. I haven't done any filing yet as I like the feel so far, however, I may take down the ribs a bit. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v726/Coloradoglocker/DSCN2820.jpg That is one fat fing grip on your glock. |
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Nope. Shot almost every model Glock, I still can't figure out how people manage to do that. +1 +2 Grip it high and tight...as taught and used on many other makes of handgun when you are trying to drive the gun hard. I am issued a SIg and Sigs require you to grip the frame high in order to drive the gun. When I transition to a Glock, I have the same problem as I try to apply my Sig grip to a Glock frame. Same for many other designs... Glock should have done what Grip Force has done with their adapter. It makes the gun much easier to use as you can drive it faster and harder. Who teaches this style "high and tight"? To drive the gun "faster and harder"? Is this new since I stopped instructing a few years ago? |
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Can't even imagine a grip that would permit the slide serrations to come in contact with the strong hand!! I have large hands and have run a lot of rounds downrange through Glocks. Never had a slide bite yet. Adjust your grip! "Adjust your grip!" Nope, a neighbor has 'meaty' hands and even though I've worked with him on his grip and he holds it correctly, he does get bit from time to time. It's just the shape of his hand and the meat that sticks up there. He tried my pistol and problem solved. Take a look at the OPs hands. They're not "meaty." They look kind of like mine. Fat people have a lot of problems, including gripping handguns. The OP probably isn't a fatty. 
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My dominant right hand just has more meat between the thumb and index finger. I've been shooting Glocks for almost 20 years. I am not fat.  When I first started shooting I was in my early 20s and rarely had slight bite issues. Now that I'm older, I've just got more meat there, more so than on my left hand, and get bitten often. It's never really that bad, though. I'm giving the adapter a try to see how I like it.
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Quoted: Quoted: Some people with 'meaty' hands have an issue with 'slide bite' as the OP does. Grip Force Adapter's add-on is a cheap ($25) and simple to install remedy to this issue as it makes it impossible for the slide to bite you. In addition, it helps change the Glock's grip angle to more like that of a 1911 for those who prefer that style. I don't have a 'slide bite' issue because my hands are more long and thin, however, I shoot both Glocks and 1911s and noticed that switching between them, I held the Glock muzzle high. I added a Grip Force Adapter and the issue is solved. Here are two pictures of my custom G20/21L both with and without the GFA. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v726/Coloradoglocker/100_0257.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v726/Coloradoglocker/DSCN7880A.jpg Note that the addition fills in the hollow at the top of the grip which has the effect of straightening it out more like a 1911. GFA recommends that you install it and then file down the piece to fit your particular grip. I haven't done any filing yet as I like the feel so far, however, I may take down the ribs a bit. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v726/Coloradoglocker/DSCN2820.jpg That is one fat fing grip on your glock. Not as big as you think. Standard G20 grip plus a Hogue HandAll. Note that my thumb is almost to the first joint on my middle finger:  Standard G20 grip plus a Hogue HandAll and Grip Force Adapter. Note that my thumb is over half way to the first joint on my middle finger:  ETA: BTW, the wide grip on the Glock, coupled with the flex of the frame during recoil is what makes the large framed Glocks have such a mild recoil. The G21 is hands down the softest shooting 45acp you can buy even though it is one of the lightest full sized ones and the same goes for the G20. As to weight, my Custom G20/21L weighs 4.74 oz more than a stock G20, at 33.2oz empty without the magwell (as I carry it in the field) and only 50.3oz fully loaded with 17+1 rds of 180grn 10mm. Compare that to the weight of a S&W 6" 686 357mag's empty weight of 44.9 oz and a loaded weight of 48.4 oz but with only 6 rds on board (1/3 as many my G20L). Further, again w/o the magwell and loading a std 13rd mag (13+1) of 230grn acp, my G21L weighs 33.2+11.9=45.1oz. Compare that to the weight for a S&W 4506 loaded with 8rds (7+1) which is 41.6+9.0=50.6oz, showing that my G21L weighs 5oz less even with 6 more rounds on board. In fact, at 45.1oz, my G21L with 13+1 rds weighs exactly the same as my Springfield Mil-Spec 5" Gov't size with on 7+1 on board, again a longer slide and 6 extra rounds. |
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Its a combination of both the slide cutting the web of my hand and the cocking serrations rubbing. This picture was taken durring a combat focus shooting class (BTW it was and awesome course, highly recommend it) after about 150-200 rounds into the first day. Did Rob Pincus teach your class? I have taken sever Combat Focus classes over the years and I'm taking the Advanced Pistol handeling and carbine class in June. Very good classes. |