Posted: 7/3/2009 7:38:19 AM EDT
| What would others say is the best CCW to keep on your side? I know there is a lot of opinions out there, but lets here them. |
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You need to decide what factors are important for you and in what order. When I was shopping for my first carry gun mine were:
1. Reliability 2. Concealability 3. Shootability (train with it all day in a handgun class, then carry it home) 4. Capacity I chose the Glock 19. I'm a fan of Glocks because they work for ME. There are other guns out there, but nothing that works better for ME. At least not at this point. With that said I also have a Glock 30, a Glock 26 on the way and a couple wheel guns that I carry. |
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I would pick a gun that is at least a 9mm or larger, make sure it fits my hands, make sure it is realiable, and then make sure I shoot it well. Also I would load it with tested and proven ammo, and the ammo that meets those specs can be found here.
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You need to decide what factors are important for you and in what order. When I was shopping for my first carry gun mine were: 1. Reliability 2. Concealability 3. Shootability (train with it all day in a handgun class, then carry it home) 4. Capacity I chose the Glock 19. I'm a fan of Glocks because they work for ME. There are other guns out there, but nothing that works better for ME. At least not at this point. With that said I also have a Glock 30, a Glock 26 on the way and a couple wheel guns that I carry. THIS! |
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I guess the hard part for me is actually finding out what's reliable. I had my heart set on a Sig P229, but from what I've read QC sucks, and you can expect problems with their guns. It's just hard to know what is, and is not reliable. What "is, and is not reliable" will be determined in YOUR hands. All we can do is choose a pistol type that is known for reliability, and confirm that with our own particular pistol, in our own hands. Most Glocks, for example, are extremely reliable. The G19, for example, has that reputation. But right now, over in the Glock forum, we're dealing with a member who's having reliablilty issues......................it does happen. I know you're thinking about a Sig P229. Go with it, they have a good rep. Either it'll work, or it won't. My bet is that it will. Or go with a Glock. Mine have always worked great. |
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What would others say is the best CCW to keep on your side? I know there is a lot of opinions out there, but lets here them. There are hundreds of excellent choices for CCW. However, the only good one is the one you consistently practice with and is always on you. A handgun does no good if it's too heavy to carry at all times and gets left home. IMO, the best CCW for those that will take the time to practice with them are the S&W x42 series J Frames. They are lightweight, very reliable, shoot a decent size caliber (.38 +P), and are small enough to drop in a pocket or go unnoticed IWB. |
| This thread and question is a long debated one, which goes back to the first production of firearms. All answers are opinions that work with that one individual, or a push to sell a product. The one thing that determines the perfect carry gun is personal preference. When deciding on a carry gun you must ask yourself a few questions. What size frame feels comfortable, what size round can I control, what can I conceal, what am I going to be doing, where am I going, and what’s my price range? Many people get caught up buying into an image, say buying a Glock because everybody they talk to has one. That might not be the best choice for that person. I carry a Glock 30 and the grip is bulky to most people who hold it, but my hands and grip feel comfy on it. I can draw and point and be right on target with it. That is one of the most important things to me, maybe different to someone else. Comfort was a big thing when shopping around. Another thing to consider is use. Are you going to carry on a daily basis, to work, to the mall. A lot of people will get a CHL, and just use it at bed side. I don’t carry every day since I cant have it on me or in my car at work, being a hospital I can understand. If you carry everyday get one that is comfortable to carry if its not then you will end up leaving it at home and that does you no good. Where you live and will carry will also help decide what size and type of round you use. While some rounds are more effective ballistic wise. Any well place shot will do damage and stop if at the least bit change somebody’s mind as to continuing to attack. A .22LR will not stop someone in their tracks but enough rounds will eventually drop somebody, while a .50cal will stop a car in its tracks might not be the best suited for self defense. Some would say go 9mm with +P because you can have 40+ rounds at your disposal. In my opinion this would be the bare minimum of a carry round. I live in an apartment with neighbors to the side and above me, I also like to the mall and walk in the park. I have always been partial to the .45ACP. So I load up on regular Winchester Hollow Points, NOT the +P. This works for my situation. I also plan on getting a snub S&W .38+P. I will carry the .45 in the car with it in my pocket when I run to walmart or someplace like that here in the small town, but if I head to the city I will have both on my body. The .45 will stagger someone if shot in the abdomen or shoulder. Or even center mass with a vest. Will one shot drop somebody in the chest area. If I miss will shatter on impact lessening the risk of a stray bullet killing a neighbor. I can control the round well, putting a drawn double tap within the 6 inch circle. Remember why you bought the gun and what duty is has, don’t run of and trade it because at 25 yards you are getting horrible groups. At that yardage you should be glad to hit the silhouette target. The bread and butter for these type guns is 3-10 yards this is the proven fact that most CHL related shootings occur. The smaller the gun the smaller the barrel the more you lose accuracy. The lighter the frame the more recoil you are going to feel. You might want a .45acp but if you can hit the target and get blown away with recoil its not suited for you. A .40 might be a good compromise not as stout as a .45 but with a little more behind it that a 9mm. I’m not a fan of 45GAP or 10mm but that is just me, never shot one. With a CHL you are arming yourself to protect your family and self. You are not in uniform and are not to uphold the law. Your side arm is to stop eminent danger or death while fleeing to cover or a bigger gun. If you carry do the population a favor and practice with it, be familiar with it; take it to the range all guns perform better over time and rounds. For your own sake do a little reading a very wise man gave me a copy of “In The Gravest Extreme: the role of the firearm in the personal protection” The biggest weapon you carry with you everyday is your brain stay aware and stay alive. |
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This thread and question is a long debated one, which goes back to the first production of firearms. All answers are opinions that work with that one individual, or a push to sell a product. The one thing that determines the perfect carry gun is personal preference. When deciding on a carry gun you must ask yourself a few questions. What size frame feels comfortable, what size round can I control, what can I conceal, what am I going to be doing, where am I going, and what’s my price range? Many people get caught up buying into an image, say buying a Glock because everybody they talk to has one. That might not be the best choice for that person. I carry a Glock 30 and the grip is bulky to most people who hold it, but my hands and grip feel comfy on it. I can draw and point and be right on target with it. That is one of the most important things to me, maybe different to someone else. Comfort was a big thing when shopping around. Another thing to consider is use. Are you going to carry on a daily basis, to work, to the mall. A lot of people will get a CHL, and just use it at bed side. I don’t carry every day since I cant have it on me or in my car at work, being a hospital I can understand. If you carry everyday get one that is comfortable to carry if its not then you will end up leaving it at home and that does you no good. Where you live and will carry will also help decide what size and type of round you use. While some rounds are more effective ballistic wise. Any well place shot will do damage and stop if at the least bit change somebody’s mind as to continuing to attack. A .22LR will not stop someone in their tracks but enough rounds will eventually drop somebody, while a .50cal will stop a car in its tracks might not be the best suited for self defense. Some would say go 9mm with +P because you can have 40+ rounds at your disposal. In my opinion this would be the bare minimum of a carry round. I live in an apartment with neighbors to the side and above me, I also like to the mall and walk in the park. I have always been partial to the .45ACP. So I load up on regular Winchester Hollow Points, NOT the +P. This works for my situation. I also plan on getting a snub S&W .38+P. I will carry the .45 in the car with it in my pocket when I run to walmart or someplace like that here in the small town, but if I head to the city I will have both on my body. The .45 will stagger someone if shot in the abdomen or shoulder. Or even center mass with a vest. Will one shot drop somebody in the chest area. If I miss will shatter on impact lessening the risk of a stray bullet killing a neighbor. I can control the round well, putting a drawn double tap within the 6 inch circle. Remember why you bought the gun and what duty is has, don’t run of and trade it because at 25 yards you are getting horrible groups. At that yardage you should be glad to hit the silhouette target. The bread and butter for these type guns is 3-10 yards this is the proven fact that most CHL related shootings occur. The smaller the gun the smaller the barrel the more you lose accuracy. The lighter the frame the more recoil you are going to feel. You might want a .45acp but if you can hit the target and get blown away with recoil its not suited for you. A .40 might be a good compromise not as stout as a .45 but with a little more behind it that a 9mm. I’m not a fan of 45GAP or 10mm but that is just me, never shot one. With a CHL you are arming yourself to protect your family and self. You are not in uniform and are not to uphold the law. Your side arm is to stop eminent danger or death while fleeing to cover or a bigger gun. If you carry do the population a favor and practice with it, be familiar with it; take it to the range all guns perform better over time and rounds. For your own sake do a little reading a very wise man gave me a copy of “In The Gravest Extreme: the role of the firearm in the personal protection” The biggest weapon you carry with you everyday is your brain stay aware and stay alive. You made it really easy to read your post
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I have been daily carrying a desert Eagle .44 mag for over 10 years now. I use a custom Kydex IWB holster.
The Kydex was hard on the original gold plating but I had it redone a couple of years ago with titanium nitride (TiN). The color of the titanium nitride is very close to the original gold plating but much more wear resistant. I also had two magazines and a Surefire 6Z titanium nitride coated and also carry them in a custom kydex IWB pouch. Due to the amount of stuff inside the waist band I buy my pants 4 inches larger in the waist. It all stays put well with a Wilderness Instructor's Belt that also has a TiN coated buckle. I usually wear Hawaiian shirts to cover everything up. |
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I have been daily carrying a desert Eagle .44 mag for over 10 years now. I use a custom Kydex IWB holster. The Kydex was hard on the original gold plating but I had it redone a couple of years ago with titanium nitride (TiN). The color of the titanium nitride is very close to the original gold plating but much more wear resistant. I also had two magazines and a Surefire 6Z titanium nitride coated and also carry them in a custom kydex IWB pouch. Due to the amount of stuff inside the waist band I buy my pants 4 inches larger in the waist. It all stays put well with a Wilderness Instructor's Belt that also has a TiN coated buckle. I usually wear Hawaiian shirts to cover everything up. HAHAHA PICS OR GTFO |

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