Posted: 3/6/2014 2:16:01 PM EDT
| I was just at the local gunshop and they had a new 75D compact in stock for $569. I was trying to research if this was a good price or not. What leaves me confused is it has a rail and from my limited knowledge of the CZ line it appears like its actually a P-01? Is that possible? What's the difference between the p-01 and the 75D? Lastly, is that a decent price. |
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My 75D PCR does not have a rail so I think you are looking at a P-01. It is my understanding that the 75D PCR has a cast alloy frame and the P-01 has a forged alloy frame. My PCR has been perfect through well over a thousand rounds, no failures of any kind at all and is way more accurate than me.
I walked out the door of a gun show in Houston with my PCR for $411 about six years ago. They had a P-01 for about $35 more at the time but I liked the look and balance of the PCR and did not consider the rail something I needed at the time. The price you mentioned seems high to me but times have changed. Either way CZ's are fine pistols. |
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Here's an example of what I'm talking about, this looks the same as the one I saw at the shop 75d with rail
As opposed to what every other 75d including CZ's website No rail |
You'll most likely run into the CZ marked "P01". That is what the alloyed framed, railed compact 75 is called here in the US.
Though less likely, you may run into one of these marked "CZ 75 D COMPACT" on the slide. Like so: 
They have different roll marks on the slide (and name). But are the exact same gun. The P01 is just the name for the US market. The 75 D COMPACT is for the rest of the world/Europe. Mainly because here in the US we have the decocker, non-railed, alloyed framed, CZ 75 compact that we/CZUB call the PCR, though the sldie is marked D COMPACT. I don't believe it's sold anywhere else but in the USA. 
I hope I haven't confused you now. One more thing. Either P01 pistol may or many not have one of these on the right side of the gun. The NSN ....etc, etc. 
Having or not having the NSN is a wash. CZ advertises it as something special. But it simply means that the pistol is NATO certified. When a slight change is made (like the material of one part), the pistol loses the NSN for a while. So you may run into either P01. From time to time when supply is short on the P01 and demand is high. CZ brings in the 75 D COMPACT marked guns to here that were made for the (to us) foreign market. |
| Thanks for your input Jack_Flag. I found a CZ forum last night that had basicallly the same explanation you did. I went back today and bought it. It is marked as a 75D compact, but it does have the rail, so I guess it's basically the P01. It's identical to the one in your second picture. |
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Thanks for your input Jack_Flag. I found a CZ forum last night that had basicallly the same explanation you did. I went back today and bought it. It is marked as a 75D compact, but it does have the rail, so I guess it's basically the P01. It's identical to the one in your second picture. Yup, same gun as the P01. Just was intended originally for a market other than N. America/USA. That explanation may have been mine there as well originally. 
Congrats on the gun. I have numerous CZ pistols. But don't have a P01 yet.  
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| Thanks for the responses. I haven't shot it yet, but I can tell I'm going to love it. Where can I find magazines? On a side note, both of the mags that came with it "rattle" when fully loaded. Is that normal? It sounds like the rounds are rattling around in the mag. |
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I have a P-01 (with the NATO NSN number) that I got some time back. Its a 2005 production in the less common green color. As for the compact with the rail, I don't know how common these are as I have never noticed one at any of the local shops. But, they clearly are out there. If you go to the CZ website (the home web page back in "the old country" ) they show them and go on to explain it is the pistol that went through the NATO testing. In other words.....its what was known as the P-01. Odd how they do this name change as they still show a P-01 on their US site. If you comb over the specs you notice a very small difference in their weight. Also, they say one has an aluminum frame and then on the other mention a "forged aluminum" frame. Is that just a ad copy statement or is there really a difference? I don't claim to know, I just noticed it when comparing the two.
Something tells me they just put slides marked as "Compact" on a P-01 frame and shipped it out. Who knows? Does it really matter? Nah...great pistol either way. CZ has a way of mixing and matching parts to make a lot of combinations out of a few basic parts. The Czec web page: CZ Compact with rail |
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Thanks for the responses. I haven't shot it yet, but I can tell I'm going to love it. Where can I find magazines? On a side note, both of the mags that came with it "rattle" when fully loaded. Is that normal? It sounds like the rounds are rattling around in the mag. I don't recall exactly with compact mags. Since I don't have a 75 compact anymore. But the rattle should be normal. All of my full sized mags rattle a little. Mags: You can use full sized mags made for the full sized 75 series. Or you can buy flush fitting compact mags. The larger mags will just stick out a little. I suggest you save money and go with Mec Gar mags. Mec Gar makes some/all of the mags for CZ and many other gun companies. They're just cheaper since they don't have the proper company logo on them. As a general rule. Stay away from Promag. I see that Midway is sold out of Mec Gar mags for the 75 series. You certainly don't need to pay $40 per mag. Greg Cote is a go to for mags. He has the full sized and compact mags in stock. Same price: http://www.gregcotellc.com/cart/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=97_130 $20-21 bucks is probably the cheapest you'll find right now. Midway was blowing out 1000's of them a number of months ago. When the panic let up and they were holding a bunch of mags. Wish I bought some more then. I think the cheapest they got were $13-14..
Edit: I guess lower than dirt has the full size mags for a couple bucks less than Greg. If you want to do business with them: http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/2-MCGCZ7516B?utm_source=Slickguns&utm_medium=organic |
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I have a P-01 (with the NATO NSN number) that I got some time back. Its a 2005 production in the less common green color. As for the compact with the rail, I don't know how common these are as I have never noticed one at any of the local shops. But, they clearly are out there. If you go to the CZ website (the home web page back in "the old country" ) they show them and go on to explain it is the pistol that went through the NATO testing. In other words.....its what was known as the P-01. Odd how they do this name change as they still show a P-01 on their US site. If you comb over the specs you notice a very small difference in their weight. Also, they say one has an aluminum frame and then on the other mention a "forged aluminum" frame. Is that just a ad copy statement or is there really a difference? I don't claim to know, I just noticed it when comparing the two. Something tells me they just put slides marked as "Compact" on a P-01 frame and shipped it out. Who knows? Does it really matter? Nah...great pistol either way. CZ has a way of mixing and matching parts to make a lot of combinations out of a few basic parts. The Czec web page: CZ Compact with rail Like I said before. The P01 is on the US site because that is what is meant originally for the US/North American market. The same gun marked as the compact is meant for Europe. But they bring the meant for Europe guns over here sometimes when there is a demand and shortage here. The US civilian gun market is the largest gun market after all. There are minor differences in most of the specs when comparing the the UB and USA sites. Probably just whoever put them in rounded up/down differently. Or they got lost in translation going to or from the metric system.
And of course. The PCR is sold here with a compact marked slide. Having two guns marked as "compact D" could cause confusion I guess. But when you wanna make money. CZUB sends some extra guns over here. Also if you notice. The PCR slide is rolled marked differently than the European 75D compact/P01. I'm not sure if the PCR slide and the P01/compact D slide interchange. But I can't see why they wouldn't. |
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Went out today and put 165 rounds through it. It's now my favorite pistol and I can definitely see me turning into a CZ "fanboy". It was very accurate. It just seems like it points so naturally and easily. |