Posted: 4/23/2012 1:33:59 PM EDT
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Hi, I searched around but I can't seem to figure out the differences between the CZ 75 SP-01 and the CZ 75 SP-01 Tactical.
Does anybody know what makes it tactical? Thanks |
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CZ 75 SP01 -> Safety SP01
CZ 75 SP01 Tactical -> Decocking Lever SP01 Tactical |
| the word tactical is overused in most cases. It has a false meaning of more crap can be put on your weapon which throws around the recoil, weighs it down, makes to have to operate too many objects, and probably a different color. whenever someone tells me something like the AR15 is more 'tactical' than another weapon, I instantly think it is more 'Attachtical". The function isn't affected, usually the practicality of 'tactical' versions are just less so and more expensive. Funny that 'tactical' versions are used less by mil/LE. I wouldn't worry about it. |
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I am curious about the Safety on a DA/SA pistol. I assume you can carry it cocked and locked? Can you decock it any way other than riding the hammer down? Thanks! In the case of the CZ 75 SP-01 Tactical (which I own), there is no manual safety, but there is a decocker. On the regular SP-01, there is a manual safety, but no decocker. If I recall correctly, and please correct me if I am wrong, but the SP-01 (with manual safety) can be carried "cocked & locked", with the chamber loaded, hammer back, and safety on. You can decock it, but you have to ride the hammer, and I do not know if it will be unsafe as the hammer may be resting on the firing pin. If I recall correctly, there is also a firing pin block too, similar to Glocks. On the Tactical, I believe you are meant to load it, decock it (which puts it in a half-cock position), and then carried that way. When drawn, the first shot will be double action, with no safety to flick off, and then following shots will be single action. The double-action / decocker acts the same as a DA/SA revolver. My SP-01 Tactical does have the firing pin block as well. Other than the safety / decocker, the guns are the same. |
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I am curious about the Safety on a DA/SA pistol. I assume you can carry it cocked and locked? Can you decock it any way other than riding the hammer down? Thanks! In the case of the CZ 75 SP-01 Tactical (which I own), there is no manual safety, but there is a decocker. On the regular SP-01, there is a manual safety, but no decocker. If I recall correctly, and please correct me if I am wrong, but the SP-01 (with manual safety) can be carried "cocked & locked", with the chamber loaded, hammer back, and safety on. You can decock it, but you have to ride the hammer, and I do not know if it will be unsafe as the hammer may be resting on the firing pin. If I recall correctly, there is also a firing pin block too, similar to Glocks. On the Tactical, I believe you are meant to load it, decock it (which puts it in a half-cock position), and then carried that way. When drawn, the first shot will be double action, with no safety to flick off, and then following shots will be single action. The double-action / decocker acts the same as a DA/SA revolver. My SP-01 Tactical does have the firing pin block as well. Other than the safety / decocker, the guns are the same. Correct. As to the part in RED, carrying "cocked & locked" (ie safety on) is as safe or more so than with a 1911 or a BHP. In addition to the manual thumb safety, the standard SP-01 has a Firing Pin safety only found in 1911s that follow the Colt "Series 80" pattern. Certain competition-only versions of the SP-01 either do not have this feature or it is disabled. All standard SP-01s also features a "half cock" feature that allows a DA trigger pull, but keeps the hammer OFF the firing pin. However, you can only reach this position from a loaded chamber by pinching the hammer with two fingers and pulling the trigger on the loaded gun (obvious safety issue here). As to the part in green, you MUST de-cock the tactical to carry safey, just as you must with a Beretta M9 or a Sig M11 (aka 228). |
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I am curious about the Safety on a DA/SA pistol. I assume you can carry it cocked and locked? Can you decock it any way other than riding the hammer down? Thanks! In the case of the CZ 75 SP-01 Tactical (which I own), there is no manual safety, but there is a decocker. On the regular SP-01, there is a manual safety, but no decocker. If I recall correctly, and please correct me if I am wrong, but the SP-01 (with manual safety) can be carried "cocked & locked", with the chamber loaded, hammer back, and safety on. You can decock it, but you have to ride the hammer, and I do not know if it will be unsafe as the hammer may be resting on the firing pin. If I recall correctly, there is also a firing pin block too, similar to Glocks. On the Tactical, I believe you are meant to load it, decock it (which puts it in a half-cock position), and then carried that way. When drawn, the first shot will be double action, with no safety to flick off, and then following shots will be single action. The double-action / decocker acts the same as a DA/SA revolver. My SP-01 Tactical does have the firing pin block as well. Other than the safety / decocker, the guns are the same. Correct. As to the part in RED, carrying "cocked & locked" (ie safety on) is as safe or more so than with a 1911 or a BHP. In addition to the manual thumb safety, the standard SP-01 has a Firing Pin safety only found in 1911s that follow the Colt "Series 80" pattern. Certain competition-only versions of the SP-01 either do not have this feature or it is disabled. All standard SP-01s also features a "half cock" feature that allows a DA trigger pull, but keeps the hammer OFF the firing pin. However, you can only reach this position from a loaded chamber by pinching the hammer with two fingers and pulling the trigger on the loaded gun (obvious safety issue here). As to the part in green, you MUST de-cock the tactical to carry safey, just as you must with a Beretta M9 or a Sig M11 (aka 228). De-cocking the Tactical before carry is what I was trying to convey. If you read what I said, that's what I was trying to get across. Thank you for clarifying my post. I know my Tactical has the "half-cock" position, and was not 100% sure if the regular SP-01 had it or not. I didn't get into the "competition" style CZ's like the Shadow, as I was under the impression the topic was the SP-01 and SP-01 Tactical. I will agree that the competition models have the firing pin block removed for a cleaner, shorter trigger travel, but that's a whole different ball-game. |
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I am curious about the Safety on a DA/SA pistol. I assume you can carry it cocked and locked? Can you decock it any way other than riding the hammer down? Thanks! In the case of the CZ 75 SP-01 Tactical (which I own), there is no manual safety, but there is a decocker. On the regular SP-01, there is a manual safety, but no decocker. If I recall correctly, and please correct me if I am wrong, but the SP-01 (with manual safety) can be carried "cocked & locked", with the chamber loaded, hammer back, and safety on. You can decock it, but you have to ride the hammer, and I do not know if it will be unsafe as the hammer may be resting on the firing pin. If I recall correctly, there is also a firing pin block too, similar to Glocks. On the Tactical, I believe you are meant to load it, decock it (which puts it in a half-cock position), and then carried that way. When drawn, the first shot will be double action, with no safety to flick off, and then following shots will be single action. The double-action / decocker acts the same as a DA/SA revolver. My SP-01 Tactical does have the firing pin block as well. Other than the safety / decocker, the guns are the same. Correct. As to the part in RED, carrying "cocked & locked" (ie safety on) is as safe or more so than with a 1911 or a BHP. In addition to the manual thumb safety, the standard SP-01 has a Firing Pin safety only found in 1911s that follow the Colt "Series 80" pattern. Certain competition-only versions of the SP-01 either do not have this feature or it is disabled. All standard SP-01s also features a "half cock" feature that allows a DA trigger pull, but keeps the hammer OFF the firing pin. However, you can only reach this position from a loaded chamber by pinching the hammer with two fingers and pulling the trigger on the loaded gun (obvious safety issue here). As to the part in green, you MUST de-cock the tactical to carry safey, just as you must with a Beretta M9 or a Sig M11 (aka 228). De-cocking the Tactical before carry is what I was trying to convey. If you read what I said, that's what I was trying to get across. Thank you for clarifying my post. I know my Tactical has the "half-cock" position, and was not 100% sure if the regular SP-01 had it or not. I didn't get into the "competition" style CZ's like the Shadow, as I was under the impression the topic was the SP-01 and SP-01 Tactical. I will agree that the competition models have the firing pin block removed for a cleaner, shorter trigger travel, but that's a whole different ball-game. . nevermind. |
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Does anybody know what makes it tactical? Thanks Just a name that lets you know it is the decocker model. Compared to the standard 75, the SP-01 seems pretty tacticool to me. You get a rail, nights sights and higher capacity magazines. Don't forget its little brother, the P-01. 
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Quoted: Quoted: Does anybody know what makes it tactical? Thanks Just a name that lets you know it is the decocker model. Compared to the standard 75, the SP-01 seems pretty tacticool to me. You get a rail, nights sights and higher capacity magazines. Don't forget its little brother, the P-01. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c141/myphotos27/DSC01142.jpg Small point in that you can use the 19 round mags in a regular old CZ75 without issue so there's no real capacity difference. ETA: You knew that already I'm sure, I'm just verklmept they don't make a P-01 style pistol with a safety. |
| The DA/SA safety equipped CZs can be decocked by grasping the hammer between the thumb and forefinger, pulling and immediately releasing the trigger, then lowering the hammer down on the half cock notch. At this point they can be carried as safely as the decocker models. |
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Quoted: The DA/SA safety equipped CZs can be decocked by grasping the hammer between the thumb and forefinger, pulling and immediately releasing the trigger, then lowering the hammer down on the half cock notch. At this point they can be carried as safely as the decocker models. I did not know that, thank you for posting that. |
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Does anybody know what makes it tactical? Thanks Just a name that lets you know it is the decocker model. Compared to the standard 75, the SP-01 seems pretty tacticool to me. You get a rail, nights sights and higher capacity magazines. Don't forget its little brother, the P-01. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c141/myphotos27/DSC01142.jpg Small point in that you can use the 19 round mags in a regular old CZ75 without issue so there's no real capacity difference.
ETA: You knew that already I'm sure, I'm just verklmept they don't make a P-01 style pistol with a safety. Of course you can use them but you have to buy them. Come standard with the SP-01. |
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The DA/SA safety equipped CZs can be decocked by grasping the hammer between the thumb and forefinger, pulling and immediately releasing the trigger, then lowering the hammer down on the half cock notch. At this point they can be carried as safely as the decocker models. This, or you can do it one handed if you hold the hammer in place with your thumb, pull the trigger, release the trigger then ride the hammer home. This is no more dangerous than decocking a modern double action revolver with a transfer bar. |
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The DA/SA safety equipped CZs can be decocked by grasping the hammer between the thumb and forefinger, pulling and immediately releasing the trigger, then lowering the hammer down on the half cock notch. At this point they can be carried as safely as the decocker models. This, or you can do it one handed if you hold the hammer in place with your thumb, pull the trigger, release the trigger then ride the hammer home. This is no more dangerous than decocking a modern double action revolver with a transfer bar. Actually, it probably is more hazardous. The revolver usually has a large lever for you thumb. |
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The DA/SA safety equipped CZs can be decocked by grasping the hammer between the thumb and forefinger, pulling and immediately releasing the trigger, then lowering the hammer down on the half cock notch. At this point they can be carried as safely as the decocker models. This, or you can do it one handed if you hold the hammer in place with your thumb, pull the trigger, release the trigger then ride the hammer home. This is no more dangerous than decocking a modern double action revolver with a transfer bar. Actually, it probably is more hazardous. The revolver usually has a large lever for you thumb. Yes - that technique is very dangerous and has caused quite a few NDs. Use TWO hands to do this & leave the dangerous Hollywood crap to idiots and Hollywood (same thing I guess). |