Posted: 4/7/2009 8:42:12 PM EDT
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The CZ 75/85 series are often compared to the HP due to their grips installing similar feelings of comfort and confidence in the user.
It is unfortunate that FN has chosen to low- profile (or discontinue) the HP while CZ (and CZ-USA) have chosen to do exactly the opposite. If you go to the CZ-USA website, http://www.cz-usa.com/, it is very obvious that the CZ 75/85 (and the others in their lineup) is alive and well. If only FN was as interested in promoting the HP even half as much as CZ supports their pistol. 
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The CZ75 is a fine pistol Pity it isn't offered in a calibre of consequence.  ummmm, it is. check out the CZ 97 in 45 acp. You can also get 10mm in one of the clone makers (tangfolio maybe) ETA, the hi-power is a good weapon to have just because its one of the must haves of any gun collector, but I don't really think anyone is using it for anything else than a collectors item a range toye. With the modern updates to the CZ line and the support from CZ USA the 75 line is a fine weapon to use in any circumstance. |
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I don't really think anyone is using it for anything else than a collectors item a range toy. Umm, OK. I'll have to remind myself of that tomorrow morning when it goes on as my CCW. I have both Browning and CZ guns. I prefer the BHP for CCW as the CZ's are a little bit "thicker" in the slide and longer in the grip. The issue with the BHP is that FN never really marketed here and Browning is immensely more involved in promoting their shotguns, bolt rifles and bows. A different US distribution agreement 20 or 30 years ago would have resulted in a much more common use of the platform. |
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The CZ75 is a fine pistol Pity it isn't offered in a calibre of consequence. Pretty sure this is just the typical troll for humor ("trolls are the blackflies of the online world.." unknown) but in case you really are uninformed on the performance of modern pistol ammunition, try: http://ammo.ar15.com/project/Self_Defense_Ammo_FAQ/index.htm As for CZ being active in evolving their products and promoting them as opposed to Browning viewing their FN imports as a sideline, I can't agree more. I wish FN would bring us more models. Fortunately there is a huge used market out there. |
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They are both fine guns and i wouldnt hesitate to carry/use either.
as far as the ineffective shot at "calibre of consequence", its obivous the poster doesnt know about the CZ lineup. I will say that although they maybe "similar" by some, they are different in feel imo. my CZs fit my hands better then my BHPs. i will stipulate that YMMV since not everone is built from the same mold. the fit will also vary with personal taste too. |
Commented in April and started to comment again.
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They are both fine weapons, the HP takes a backseat to no other gun. I carry both with confidance. http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z207/2814V/DSCN0558.jpg Very nicely said. 
The Browning Hi Power is a true classic sidearm. IMO, the design is brilliant. I have two T series; one is a safe queen and the other I carry on a regular basis. And, by the way, I think today's 9mm jhp's are "a caliber of consequence". |
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I forgot to add that the Canadian military still sees it as a standard issue sidearm. And the Brits still issue it as the L9A1. All I saw as issued sidearms were Sigs when I was in, we had an old Hi-Power in the arms room, but it was just there like the Fals, not for issue, just there |
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CZ gets the advantage with better trigger and sites. HP"s are nice but they need about $300 work at least out the box...which sucks on a gun that goes for $600+ NIB. - It doesn't cost $300 to fix the trigger. Just remove the mag disconnect for most people. - There is nothing wrong with the sights on Mark III's - They cost $900 NIB. $500-$700 used. |
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The CZ75 is a fine pistol Pity it isn't offered in a calibre of consequence. ummmm, it is. check out the CZ 97 in 45 acp. You can also get 10mm in one of the clone makers (tangfolio maybe) ETA, the hi-power is a good weapon to have just because its one of the must haves of any gun collector, but I don't really think anyone is using it for anything else than a collectors item a range toye. With the modern updates to the CZ line and the support from CZ USA the 75 line is a fine weapon to use in any circumstance. The BHP in my pistol safe in the nightstand next to my bed laughs at your assumption. |
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CZ gets the advantage with better trigger and sites. HP"s are nice but they need about $300 work at least out the box...which sucks on a gun that goes for $600+ NIB. I've never shot a CZ but I really find it difficult to believe that a double action pistol would have a better trigger then a single action. Idk what you are talking about that you need 300$ just to make them work because that is false I have two high powers and the only additional money I spent was on magazines. |
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I agree, on average the triggers on my hi powers are not in the same league as the triggers on my 1911s but they are no worse than the trigger on my CZ when the CZ is shot in single action mode and in DA mode, the CZ still has all the normal DA trigger issues.
The major difference in the hi power and 1911 triggers, when all other things are equal in terms of weight and crispness, is that the BHP has the excessive take up that seems to be part of the design. But once you adjust to that, it is to be totally fair not a bad trigger. |
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