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1/26/2007 10:30:21 PM EDT
I don't post over here because I don't have a Sig. Today at the local indoor range one of the shooters had a case failure. I posted photos HERE. I did not post it to start a thread bashing. It is posted as information only.


1/28/2007 5:36:33 PM EDT
[#1]
The round fired was probably a reload using a shell casing that had been previously fired in a Glock.  



Just kidding!!!

Any firearm can KB of course.

Federal ammo seems to be involved in a goodly amount of these incidents (I assume that since the owner is going to contact both SIG and Federal, the round was not a reload.  Otherwise he’s obviously wasting his time with both.)

Would love to see a close-up pic of the SIG’s feed ramp and chamber.

Thanks for posting this.  These things need to be discussed, even if folks sometimes get their feelings hurt.

ETA:  Please update us if you get any further info.  Thanks!
1/29/2007 11:23:41 AM EDT
[#2]
Interesting.  I've seen a Glock KB but the shell looked nothing like that one.  Can't see this one as a gun problem.  Keep us informed on the discussions with SIG and Federal.  
1/29/2007 1:07:44 PM EDT
[#3]
I know Federal had at least one recall about 10 or so years back of 180gr HydraShok .40 that had problems with the entire case head blowing off but they did not look like that when it happened, (I saw several) Instead, the entire rear of the case separated from the rest of it...and I know of no blown up pistols because of it, but that does not mean there were not any.
1/31/2007 6:38:47 AM EDT
[#4]
Bad News

I found out that the range ammo is commercially reloaded.  Not good for the owner of the gun and I doubt the range owner will replace it. I will keep you posted as I get more info.
1/31/2007 11:16:14 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
... I found out that the range ammo is commercially reloaded.  ...

Case closed!  

If the reloads were from a reputable company like Black Hills, the shooter might get some satisfaction from them.  But if it was a mom and pop operation, he’s probably out of luck.

Thank for the info.  If anything else develops, please let us know.
2/2/2007 7:47:05 PM EDT
[#6]
Well good news. SIG replaced the Pro with a P226R Equinox no questions asked. The owner had it in 2 days after he sent his back. That is good customer service!

2/2/2007 11:30:19 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
Well good news. SIG replaced the Pro with a P226R Equinox no questions asked. The owner had it in 2 days after he sent his back. That is good customer service!



Why did he not get another Pro?
2/3/2007 5:15:51 AM EDT
[#8]
Probably one bad experience with polymer and might have been thinking a replacement might be from the same frame run.
2/4/2007 12:30:25 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
Well good news. SIG replaced the Pro with a P226R Equinox no questions asked. The owner had it in 2 days after he sent his back. That is good customer service!



I really like my older Sigs! I'm not so sure of the quality of the new ones though.
I'm glad SigArms replaced the gun with a classic series model but I don't think they could have replaced a finger if it had been much worse.
Only the person that shot the gun would know if he had a case fail to feed and he "persuaded" it to chamber through slide manipulation. I've seen this type of thing happen with a factory ammo as well as reloads. The shell jams up on the ramp, the shooter jacks with the slide and the shell then feeds.Then the shooter pulls the trigger on the cartridge.
Problem is the bullet may not be roll crimped very hard in the case and the bullet is forced back into the case make a compressed powder load. It really jacks up the chamber pressure and blow outs like this.
It happens with both factory ammo and reloads.
I'd say he is lucky the gun was replaced and he didn't lose a finger.