Posted: 3/24/2010 7:57:19 PM EDT
| How often do you guys use copper solvent in your handguns? I ask because I just did my G34, USP40, and Colt Combat Elite and MY GOD, the crap that came out of those bores was unbelievable. I clean my guns religiously and thought the barrels looked 100% clean, but never tried to remove the copper fouling. It is amazing what will come out of a bore that you think is clean. The Colt only has 200 rounds or so through it, but it was the worst one. Just wondering if I'm the only one doing this or if it is something I should have been doing all along. |
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For a real eye-opener, try KleenBore Lead Away patches.
I cleaned my barrel for about 20 minutes, scrubbed he hell out of it. Then I ran a couple of these patches down the bore. The patches cleaned COPPER SLIVERS out of the grooves! |
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depends on the gun...but, for the most part, not a whole lot; i maintain them and keep them ''clean'' and lubed, but not spotless or anything This is basically what I do. Me too. For a match rifle, I'd spend a little more time on the barrel. For my pistols, I clean but don't get too fanatical about it. |
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The reason I decided to do it was that the Lyman manual I was reading says that bench rest rifle shooters will do a full copper cleaning every 20-30 rounds. My USP had never had the copper cleaned out after thousands upon thousands of rounds. I'm curious to see if there will be any noticeable effect on accuracy or recoil, I doubt it. But it does occur to me that a clean bore should result in lower chamber pressures and thus longer life for your weapon.
I'll probably keep doing it. Mostly it's just satisfying, like popping a big zit. And it's cool to see the bore look like a freakin mirror. |
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The reason I decided to do it was that the Lyman manual I was reading says that bench rest rifle shooters will do a full copper cleaning every 20-30 rounds. My USP had never had the copper cleaned out after thousands upon thousands of rounds. I'm curious to see if there will be any noticeable effect on accuracy or recoil, I doubt it. But it does occur to me that a clean bore should result in lower chamber pressures and thus longer life for your weapon. I'll probably keep doing it. Mostly it's just satisfying, like popping a big zit. And it's cool to see the bore look like a freakin mirror. |
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Quoted: The reason I decided to do it was that the Lyman manual I was reading says that bench rest rifle shooters will do a full copper cleaning every 20-30 rounds. My USP had never had the copper cleaned out after thousands upon thousands of rounds. I'm curious to see if there will be any noticeable effect on accuracy or recoil, I doubt it. But it does occur to me that a clean bore should result in lower chamber pressures and thus longer life for your weapon. I'll probably keep doing it. Mostly it's just satisfying, like popping a big zit. And it's cool to see the bore look like a freakin mirror. There you go. It doesn't matter nearly as much with handguns. |
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The reason I decided to do it was that the Lyman manual I was reading says that bench rest rifle shooters will do a full copper cleaning every 20-30 rounds. My USP had never had the copper cleaned out after thousands upon thousands of rounds. I'm curious to see if there will be any noticeable effect on accuracy or recoil, I doubt it. But it does occur to me that a clean bore should result in lower chamber pressures and thus longer life for your weapon. I'll probably keep doing it. Mostly it's just satisfying, like popping a big zit. And it's cool to see the bore look like a freakin mirror. There you go. It doesn't matter nearly as much with handguns. Guys, I do know the difference between benchrest rifles and handguns. Thats why I put that in my post. I know it doesn't matter nearly as much with handguns, but how much does it matter? Does anyone notice their groups opening up as the bore gets dirtier? My range guns I shoot for accuracy, no drills, just trying to see what kind of groups I can get. When it comes to my carry guns or my nightstand gun, accuracy is not much of an issue. They are accurate enough and that's that. But with a range gun I like to see how small I can get my groups. Practice a ton...they get smaller. Get a trigger job...they get smaller. Get some Novak sights...they get smaller. Start handloading...they get smaller. I just wonder how much fouling affects accuracy. I doubt it has much effect, but I guess I'm just going to have to do some testing. I'll be sure to post it when I do. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The reason I decided to do it was that the Lyman manual I was reading says that bench rest rifle shooters will do a full copper cleaning every 20-30 rounds. My USP had never had the copper cleaned out after thousands upon thousands of rounds. I'm curious to see if there will be any noticeable effect on accuracy or recoil, I doubt it. But it does occur to me that a clean bore should result in lower chamber pressures and thus longer life for your weapon. I'll probably keep doing it. Mostly it's just satisfying, like popping a big zit. And it's cool to see the bore look like a freakin mirror. There you go. It doesn't matter nearly as much with handguns. Guys, I do know the difference between benchrest rifles and handguns. Thats why I put that in my post. I know it doesn't matter nearly as much with handguns, but how much does it matter? Does anyone notice their groups opening up as the bore gets dirtier? My range guns I shoot for accuracy, no drills, just trying to see what kind of groups I can get. When it comes to my carry guns or my nightstand gun, accuracy is not much of an issue. They are accurate enough and that's that. But with a range gun I like to see how small I can get my groups. Practice a ton...they get smaller. Get a trigger job...they get smaller. Get some Novak sights...they get smaller. Start handloading...they get smaller. I just wonder how much fouling affects accuracy. I doubt it has much effect, but I guess I'm just going to have to do some testing. I'll be sure to post it when I do. I understand what you're asking now. I really don't know but I'd be interested to try this out with some of the copper/lead solvent patches posted earlier in the thread. I haven't deep cleaned a few of my handguns since I've had them. I usually only use boresnakes. I've never heard any testing done but I'm betting it'll have less of an effect on the polygonal rifling than it will on conventional. The LW barrel I have for my Glock 21 is conventional rifling and I almost always shoot plain lead through it, so I'm interested to see what difference it would make in that. Maybe when my yard dries out a little bit I'll do some testing with it. |
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I use Break-Free Bore Cleaning Foam. It does a great job on copper fouling. I'm not anal about cleaning guns. I get them clean, but they'll never pass a white glove inspection. Same here I use a brush and Solvent first then the Foaming Bore Cleaner. After each time I shoot them. |