Posted: 2/25/2010 3:40:54 PM EDT
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I carry my M1911 .45 in condition one all day. I unload at night (have loaded tactical shotgun by bed) and then rechamber round next morning before heading out the door. I've noticed (depending on which 1911 I carry) a certain amt of push-back of bullet into casing. I periodically "mike" OAL to ensure it hasn't reached the SAAMI minimum of 1.090. Some have said, "Don't keep unloading/reloading your piston," instead, keep your 1911 in condition one around the clock, there's no harm being done to spring, sear, etc. Is that true? How do the rest of you condition 1'rs do this? 2) I also do the same w/my Glock i.e., load when carrying, unload at bedtime. Is there any damage to a DA pistol if you just keep it loaded and cocked?
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Cycling actually fatigues springs more than they "set" from being compressed. Do you decock your AR's when you put them up?| Again, old school use to teach that keeping the 1911 in condition one 24/7 was hard on all of the firing mechanisms "tensioned" components. Somewhat analogous, I'd guess, to the same old schoolers who thought keeping a mag loaded for days/wks at a time would weaken the springs more than unloading a mag at the end of each work day/week, etc. Today, we better understand that components under tension will last longer than those that are stessed/unstressed to often or frequently. I just wanted to ensure the same principle applied to the firing mechanism. I usually rotate carry guns on a weekly basis. Based on everyone's recommendation, I'll leave 1911 locked n cocked all week with no second thoughts. Thanks. |
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Whatever problems MIGHT arise form keeping it loaded all the time are nothing compared to the kaboom you're going to have when you miss one of those set-back rounds and the overpressure grenades your 1911.
Keep it at C1 all the time, unless in storage. Won't hurt a thing. |
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Whatever problems MIGHT arise form keeping it loaded all the time are nothing compared to the kaboom you're going to have when you miss one of those set-back rounds and the overpressure grenades your 1911. Keep it at C1 all the time, unless in storage. Won't hurt a thing. This I was just thinking that. If you have kids and you are worried about them getting ahold of it lock it up or put it in a safe. |
| Comrads, I thank you. Many words of wisdom here and oddly enough...all of the same opinion. How often do you see that! ...And to the person who reminded me of my AR...I needed that wakeup call. What an idiot! I was locked and cocked for 6 straight mo's in Iraq! Although that was back in 04/05, I guess my 50+ yr old brain is finally beginning to fart. |
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+1 have a little boy. Primary Weapon AR-15 carbine C1 - 24/7. In safe Secondary Weapon 1911 - C1 - 24/7. In safe Carry Weapon 1911 - C1 - 24/7. Carried in daytime, bailout bag at night. Press check before going to sleep. Dedicated IDPA Weapon 1911 - C3 in range bag - locked. This is what i use for practice presentation, reloads, malfunction simulation etc. Chambering and extracting a round multiple times also seats my bullet deeper specially with my colt series 70 repro that have trenched feed ramps. |
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I'd keep it in C1 always. Worrying about bullet setback as others have said is a bigger concern than anything that may happen to the gun.
I told a coworker that I was going to start carrying my 1911 after I get some work done on it and he doesn't agree with carrying a 1911 in condition one. He doesn't like having the hammer back.  I don't understand the fear. I guess if you take a roofing hammer and bang on the gun's hammer it MAY go off, but otherwise nothing is going to happen.
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Quoted: I'd keep it in C1 always. Worrying about bullet setback as others have said is a bigger concern than anything that may happen to the gun. I told a coworker that I was going to start carrying my 1911 after I get some work done on it and he doesn't agree with carrying a 1911 in condition one. He doesn't like having the hammer back. I don't understand the fear. I guess if you take a roofing hammer and bang on the gun's hammer it MAY go off, but otherwise nothing is going to happen.I feel like you'd more likely break the hammer off than disengage the sear, but I suppose a piece of broken hammer might hit the firing pin tail in such a way as to make the gun discharge... that is a seeeeeeeeeeerious long shot, though, and I'd be much more afraid of a discharge lowering the hammer or impacting a hammer that's down on a loaded chamber. |
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I told a coworker that I was going to start carrying my 1911 after I get some work done on it and he doesn't agree with carrying a 1911 in condition one. He doesn't like having the hammer back. I don't understand the fear. I guess if you take a roofing hammer and bang on the gun's hammer it MAY go off, but otherwise nothing is going to happen.Coworker is a dufus. My carry gun is kept loaded 24/7, my other 1911s are stored with the hammer back and the safety on. (even if you hit the hammer with a roofing hammer, the hammer should get caught on the 1/2 cock notch. You'd have to beat on it twice.  )
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I told a coworker that I was going to start carrying my 1911 after I get some work done on it and he doesn't agree with carrying a 1911 in condition one. He doesn't like having the hammer back. I don't understand the fear. I guess if you take a roofing hammer and bang on the gun's hammer it MAY go off, but otherwise nothing is going to happen.Coworker is a dufus. My carry gun is kept loaded 24/7, my other 1911s are stored with the hammer back and the safety on. (even if you hit the hammer with a roofing hammer, the hammer should get caught on the 1/2 cock notch. You'd have to beat on it twice. )
My sentiments exactly. I wouldn't think of carrying a 1911 any other way. |
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Half eject the magazine.
lock slide back drop live round in to the mag well from the top, ontop of the magazine. SLOWLY let the slide forward and use a table to press the magazine in a litte bit and GUIDE the round into the chamber. Make sure the rim of the case is behimd the extracter fully insert magazine. press check. It will not cause setback, and you can unload and load as often as you like. |
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I had a Para a dozen years ago that occasionally punched 165gr Cor Bons into the case like they had been hit with a hammer. Sent a few into Cor Bon, and had one of their staff give me a shout to find out how I had managed to do it. He told me LE agencies that required frequent clearing of their weapons had tremendous issues with setback. He wrote a column for one of the gun rags. Nice guy. Can't remember his name.
Anyway, the recommendation was to chamber the round twice, then put it in the range pile. |