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3/15/2006 6:39:41 PM EDT
How much should a reasonable gunsmith charge for assembling a 1911 frame and slide kit (including any fitting)?

Here's why I ask:
I'd like to build a rimfire 1911 out of a Caspian frame, Brownells parts kit, and Advantage Arms .22lr upper. The components of the pistol are within my budget, but how much should I expect to pay to have a smith put everything together in working order?

Your thoughts please?
3/15/2006 8:28:06 PM EDT
[#1]
I charge $30 an hour and with quality parts such as Caspian and Advantage Arms I wouldn't expect any more than two to three hours of labor to properly fit and assemble everything.  I would also test fire the gun to ensure proper function (and because that's how I get to try out hundreds of different configurations, hehe...)

If you had already done a 4473 on the frame when you got it, then the assembly is just gunsmithing work and I could even mail the complete gun directly back to you.
3/16/2006 4:46:28 AM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
I charge $30 an hour and with quality parts such as Caspian and Advantage Arms I wouldn't expect any more than two to three hours of labor to properly fit and assemble everything.  I would also test fire the gun to ensure proper function (and because that's how I get to try out hundreds of different configurations, hehe...)

If you had already done a 4473 on the frame when you got it, then the assembly is just gunsmithing work and I could even mail the complete gun directly back to you.



Who trained you to be a 1911 gunsmith?
3/16/2006 5:01:04 AM EDT
[#3]
Trained myself.  Years of fiddling with them, working on this, working on that, with my own personal guns and ruining a couple of them beyond recognition when I first started.  My shop isn't well known for 1911 work, and that's fine, we are getting a good reputation for AK kit building and the 1911 market is flooded with excellent gunsmiths already.  But what Plaskon needs is a simple assembly, fitting, and test firing of a dedicated .22lr 1911.  There's no reason for him to send the gun to Yost Bonitz or one of those guys and have to wait 6 months and pay hundreds of dollars.

Here's my shop:
www.mcarms.com

Here's a recent batch of AK kit builds for people.  This is where we make our bread and butter.
www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=4&f=64&t=83808

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=4&f=64&t=83854

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=4&f=64&t=82800

So as you can see, the 1911 work is just a small part of what we do.  Next up I'm going to fit a Wilson beavertail to an AMT Hardballer.  The Hardballer's grip safety engagement is longer than a standard 1911's (argh, I hate non-spec 1911s sometimes) so I'm going to have to weld an extension onto the Wilson and then grind it to shape.  Oh well, I love a challenge.
3/16/2006 5:10:37 AM EDT
[#4]
10-4, your AK builds look great by the way.
3/16/2006 5:29:23 AM EDT
[#5]
I would have liked to attend a gunsmithing school but law school tapped out my finances enough that it wasn't really an option.  So I learned by doing.
3/16/2006 5:38:49 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
Trained myself.  Years of fiddling with them, working on this, working on that, with my own personal guns and ruining a couple of them beyond recognition when I first started.



Many of the finest craftsmen (gunsmiths, carpenters, machinist, etc.) were self taught.  Absolutely nothing to be ashamed of when you show pride in your work.
3/16/2006 7:46:50 AM EDT
[#7]
Why don't you do it yourself.  I build my own and taught myself, including machining work on 80% complete receivers.