Posted: 1/21/2012 6:10:09 AM EDT
| Need some opinions. If you had your choice between a TRP or a Dan Wesson Valor, which would you get? |
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Valor! You will be glad you did, my VBOB rocks! I don't think you can get a better gun for the money right now.. I own a Springfield from the early 90's (before they had the loaded models) that I love. Had a lot to work done to it, ie. beavertail, new sights, safety, etc. but nothing reliability wise and it has shot anything and everything I feed it. So that is what has me considering Springfield. The amount of good things I've read about the Dan Wesson's has me intrigued, as well as the very classy good looks of the pistol. |
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Need some opinions. If you had your choice between a TRP or a Dan Wesson Valor, which would you get? Dan Wesson. Not that the Springer is bad. I shoot a Springer Loaded Target and really like it but my next pistol will be a Dan Wesson Valor. I am wanting one so bad I can taste it. They look the best of any of the 1911's on the market. I really like the fact that they have a clean slide without all of the roll marks. The fit and finish is supposed to be perfect on those as well. I vote for the Dan wesson. |
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| I would consider the TRP to be a high end production pistol while the Valor is entry level semi-custom. The black Valor has a better finish (Melonite/Ion Bond) type versus the Amory Kote on the TRP which is a gunkote style spray on finish. They are priced fairly close to each other. |
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While I have never even seen a DW 1911 I do own a TRP. Some one said the DW was better fitted. I can't see how? The TRP I own if fitted like a fine watch. The pistol also is a tack driver. I have several thousand rounds through it and have never had problem, not one. Maybe my TRP is the exception who knows, but I love it. So I say get the TRP.
P.S. the finish still looks great even after hundreds if not thousands of holster draws. |
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if you hold them both you will see the difference. The Valor is better fit. It also has the better parts. I was considering both and went Valor. I guess that's why this is a discussion forum! I have both and completely disagree. I think the TRP is a much better built gun, it 'feels' more solid to me anyways. My TRP is probably the best 1911 I've ever fired that can be found for under $2000 in today's dollars. It's my nightstand gun for a couple reasons––-100% reliability and dead accurate. http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l178/tiffani33/Guns/IMAG0783.jpg |
I had the dilemma of choosing between the 2 models but I went with a Valor since it is as tightly built as they come, comes with top quality parts, has less aggressive checkering on the front strap and MSH, no ILS, uses a standard .45acp firing pin and has a clean slide. After quite a few thousand rounds now, its still as tight and smooth as the day I purchased it. Reliability is perfect and accuracy is superb. I'm not some DW fanatic but the Valor is the best 1911 I own.
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Sold my TRP and bought a valor-its really not a fair comparison.
Valor no MIM parts better fit and finish and more solid feeling made in USA 25 LPI checkering no ambi safety better trigger pull no excessive markings on the gun no locking system higher quality sights no full length guide rod |
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I own neither, I used to have a TRP. But anyway, Ive come across a few of the Valors and more than a few TRPs. Never came across a poorly fitted anything on a TRP. Seen the Valors with minor issues.
The TRP has its faults but fit isnt one of them, I dont know where guys are coming up with that from. The biggest problem with it today is the price. It was a fantastic pistol at 1250 bucks. Seriously, rollmarks are subjective. I think the Tactical is very poserish on the TRP and I think the Valor on the slide of the DW is atleast as queer looking as the Kimber rollmark. See how opinions work. 
ETA Crying about MIM on a SA pistol is just stupid. They have about as perfect track record as the cast parts people replace them with. Theyre not using the cheap stuff from India that Kimber tried once to cut costs. |
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I had the dilemma of choosing between the 2 models but I went with a Valor since it is as tightly built as they come, comes with top quality parts, has less aggressive checkering on the front strap and MSH, no ILS, uses a standard .45acp firing pin and has a clean slide. After quite a few thousand rounds now, its still as tight and smooth as the day I purchased it. Reliability is perfect and accuracy is superb. I'm not some DW fanatic but the Valor is the best 1911 I own. The TRP uses a standard firing pin too. I removed the ILS with a 2 dollar replacement part. It's in the mainspring housing no big deal to remove. Not like Colt and Kimber. Also, what is DW customer service like? What is their warranty? Just wondering. Don't get me wrong I wouldn't mind owing a DW they look nice. If it's as nice as my TRP it would be a keeper. |
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I had the dilemma of choosing between the 2 models but I went with a Valor since it is as tightly built as they come, comes with top quality parts, has less aggressive checkering on the front strap and MSH, no ILS, uses a standard .45acp firing pin and has a clean slide. After quite a few thousand rounds now, its still as tight and smooth as the day I purchased it. Reliability is perfect and accuracy is superb. I'm not some DW fanatic but the Valor is the best 1911 I own. The TRP uses a standard firing pin too. I removed the ILS with a 2 dollar replacement part. It's in the mainspring housing no big deal to remove. Not like Colt and Kimber. Also, what is DW customer service like? What is their warranty? Just wondering. Don't get me wrong I wouldn't mind owing a DW they look nice. If it's as nice as my TRP it would be a keeper. Saw some threads stating the FP in the TRP was the typical 9mm/38 super type like all of my other SA 1911s where. Guess they either changed it at some point or people where talking nonsense. The Valor is very well fit. I got the chance to veiw both in person, side by side at my LGS when I was making the decision. I felt the Valor had more of what I wanted with nothing to change. I guess the ILS can be plugged but the MSH spring and upper pin are different then standard and need to be changed as well. As far as DW/CZ CS goes, I have no idea. My Valor runs as smooth and consistent as a Swiss time piece so I've had no reason to contact them. |
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I had the dilemma of choosing between the 2 models but I went with a Valor since it is as tightly built as they come, comes with top quality parts, has less aggressive checkering on the front strap and MSH, no ILS, uses a standard .45acp firing pin and has a clean slide. After quite a few thousand rounds now, its still as tight and smooth as the day I purchased it. Reliability is perfect and accuracy is superb. I'm not some DW fanatic but the Valor is the best 1911 I own. The TRP uses a standard firing pin too. I removed the ILS with a 2 dollar replacement part. It's in the mainspring housing no big deal to remove. Not like Colt and Kimber. Also, what is DW customer service like? What is their warranty? Just wondering. Don't get me wrong I wouldn't mind owing a DW they look nice. If it's as nice as my TRP it would be a keeper. Saw some threads stating the FP in the TRP was the typical 9mm/38 super type like all of my other SA 1911s where. Guess they either changed it at some point or people where talking nonsense. The Valor is very well fit. I got the chance to veiw both in person, side by side at my LGS when I was making the decision. I felt the Valor had more of what I wanted with nothing to change. I guess the ILS can be plugged but the MSH spring and upper pin are different then standard and need to be changed as well. As far as DW CS goes, I have no idea. My Valor runs as smooth and consistent as a Swiss time piece so I've had no reason to contact them. The .38 Super size pin is used for a reason, a good one at that. I would be suprised that the Valor doesnt use it as well. |
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I had the dilemma of choosing between the 2 models but I went with a Valor since it is as tightly built as they come, comes with top quality parts, has less aggressive checkering on the front strap and MSH, no ILS, uses a standard .45acp firing pin and has a clean slide. After quite a few thousand rounds now, its still as tight and smooth as the day I purchased it. Reliability is perfect and accuracy is superb. I'm not some DW fanatic but the Valor is the best 1911 I own. The TRP uses a standard firing pin too. I removed the ILS with a 2 dollar replacement part. It's in the mainspring housing no big deal to remove. Not like Colt and Kimber. Also, what is DW customer service like? What is their warranty? Just wondering. Don't get me wrong I wouldn't mind owing a DW they look nice. If it's as nice as my TRP it would be a keeper. Saw some threads stating the FP in the TRP was the typical 9mm/38 super type like all of my other SA 1911s where. Guess they either changed it at some point or people where talking nonsense. The Valor is very well fit. I got the chance to veiw both in person, side by side at my LGS when I was making the decision. I felt the Valor had more of what I wanted with nothing to change. I guess the ILS can be plugged but the MSH spring and upper pin are different then standard and need to be changed as well. As far as DW CS goes, I have no idea. My Valor runs as smooth and consistent as a Swiss time piece so I've had no reason to contact them. The .38 Super size pin is used for a reason, a good one at that. I would be suprised that the Valor doesnt use it as well. I think it does. If so, out of 12 1911s I've owned so far, only my SA and Valor have it. Not a big deal though and wasn't really the reason I chose the Valor. |
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if you hold them both you will see the difference. The Valor is better fit. It also has the better parts. I was considering both and went Valor. It is shameful that SA STILL puts MIM parts in a pistol that expensive. Valor all the way. Does Dan Wesson offer a comparable military discount? The SA TRP Light Rail model is $1400 for law enforcement and military. |
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if you hold them both you will see the difference. The Valor is better fit. It also has the better parts. I was considering both and went Valor. It is shameful that SA STILL puts MIM parts in a pistol that expensive. Valor all the way. Does Dan Wesson offer a comparable military discount? The SA TRP Light Rail model is $1400 for law enforcement and military. Yes they offer a military discount. You can get the DW Valor for $1400 without any discount, probably less than that. If you want a light rail, DW has a new model coming out. Same fit and finish as a valor. |
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if you hold them both you will see the difference. The Valor is better fit. It also has the better parts. I was considering both and went Valor. It is shameful that SA STILL puts MIM parts in a pistol that expensive. Valor all the way. Does Dan Wesson offer a comparable military discount? The SA TRP Light Rail model is $1400 for law enforcement and military. Yes they offer a military discount. You can get the DW Valor for $1400 without any discount, probably less than that. If you want a light rail, DW has a new model coming out. Same fit and finish as a valor. Ever since I got my Valor I have been eagerly awaiting the new fullsize DW..... |
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if you hold them both you will see the difference. The Valor is better fit. It also has the better parts. I was considering both and went Valor. It is shameful that SA STILL puts MIM parts in a pistol that expensive. Valor all the way. Does Dan Wesson offer a comparable military discount? The SA TRP Light Rail model is $1400 for law enforcement and military. Yes they offer a military discount. You can get the DW Valor for $1400 without any discount, probably less than that. If you want a light rail, DW has a new model coming out. Same fit and finish as a valor. Is there an ETA on this? edit. I just checked their website. Is this it? http://www.cz-usa.com/products/view/dan-wesson-specialist/ |
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if you hold them both you will see the difference. The Valor is better fit. It also has the better parts. I was considering both and went Valor. It is shameful that SA STILL puts MIM parts in a pistol that expensive. Valor all the way. Does Dan Wesson offer a comparable military discount? The SA TRP Light Rail model is $1400 for law enforcement and military. Yes they offer a military discount. You can get the DW Valor for $1400 without any discount, probably less than that. If you want a light rail, DW has a new model coming out. Same fit and finish as a valor. Is there an ETA on this? edit. I just checked their website. Is this it? http://www.cz-usa.com/products/view/dan-wesson-specialist/ Yes, but I wouldn't count on the website being good for actual product representation. Their photo for the SS Valor is still the sample model from late 2009, not the actual finished product. |
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Where are the Dan Wessons made? Norwich, NY They are owned by CZ, a European company if that's important to you. So DW Valor made with American parts by Americans working for a European owned company, or Springfield, an American company that imports foreign made guns and foreign made parts to build guns out of? Is Colt still all American? |
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Where are the Dan Wessons made? Norwich, NY They are owned by CZ, a European company if that's important to you. So DW Valor made with American parts by Americans working for a European owned company, or Springfield, an American company that imports foreign made guns and foreign made parts to build guns out of? Is Colt still all American? Except for the UAW and the retards they are prohibited from getting rid of. |
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if you hold them both you will see the difference. The Valor is better fit. It also has the better parts. I was considering both and went Valor. It is shameful that SA STILL puts MIM parts in a pistol that expensive. Valor all the way. Does Dan Wesson offer a comparable military discount? The SA TRP Light Rail model is $1400 for law enforcement and military. Yes they offer a military discount. You can get the DW Valor for $1400 without any discount, probably less than that. If you want a light rail, DW has a new model coming out. Same fit and finish as a valor. Is there an ETA on this? edit. I just checked their website. Is this it? http://www.cz-usa.com/products/view/dan-wesson-specialist/ They were showing a finished product at the Shot Show, my guess is 2nd half 2012 for the product to start shipping. |
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if you hold them both you will see the difference. The Valor is better fit. It also has the better parts. I was considering both and went Valor. It is shameful that SA STILL puts MIM parts in a pistol that expensive. Valor all the way. Does Dan Wesson offer a comparable military discount? The SA TRP Light Rail model is $1400 for law enforcement and military. Yes they offer a military discount. You can get the DW Valor for $1400 without any discount, probably less than that. If you want a light rail, DW has a new model coming out. Same fit and finish as a valor. Is there an ETA on this? edit. I just checked their website. Is this it? http://www.cz-usa.com/products/view/dan-wesson-specialist/ They were showing a finished product at the Shot Show, my guess is 2nd half 2012 for the product to start shipping. That sucks as I will be in California by then and I'm sure it will be "off list" |
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They are on the California list until Jan 2013, I believe. I thought just a few models are? I've seen people posting about how they can't even get Valors there. You are correct. I simply meant they are "on the list". I believe you guys can get the CBOB and maybe the Pointman/Heritage. Otherwise I've heard of ways around those laws as well. |