Posted: 5/24/2017 12:34:52 AM EDT
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I'm going to be on a short float trip Monday with the family. I'm not really a water type activity person, so I'm just going to wear an old ass pair of shorts I wear for any type of work where I don't care how fucked up they get.
Planning to just wear those, an older CCW belt, and carrying my Glock 23 in a kydex IWB holster. Light shirt over the top, but is this good to go for a short canoe trip? We're talking 4 hours tops from where we push off to end of float trip. Anything I should do to protect the gun and ammo? I've heard of people double bagging guns in ziplock bags, but I think I've been in the rain enough with my Glock, that the inevitable splashing from my stepsisters isn't an issue. |
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Seal the primers so water doesn't get there all I got. Other than that Glock should be fine. 
Also seen a lot of reports that modern ammo is fine for a short dunk in the water, which is about all I would expect to happen. |
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I've been looking around, seen that recommended a lot, usually advising clear nail polish to seal it.
Also seen a lot of reports that modern ammo is fine for a short dunk in the water, which is about all I would expect to happen. |
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Many years ago I used to wade fish in the clear rivers at home (WV). My Ruger Speed Six .357 (it is stainless steel) was carried in the zipper front chest pocket of the bibs I wore for wading. It got wet, it even got soaked and once or twice it got under the water as I'd wade through a deep spot to get to the other side of the river. Never had an issue with the rounds not going off at a later date (my own snake shell reloads made from the CCI shot shell capsules) and I never treated them for waterproofing.
I wouldn't think some water splashed on the gun would hurt the ammo. |
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I'm not much of a water activity guy, so I knew I was probably overthinking it. Quoted:
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Holy shit. Stop over thinking this You'll be fine My g19 came lobstering everyday for 10 years. Clean it if you go swimming 
Especially being fresh water. Although if you go for a swim in the Mississippi around the quad cities the frame may melt 
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The following comments assumes that "float" means a free-flowing stream and a canoe or kayak . . .
First rule of the river is never bring anything you're not willing to sacrifice to the river. The possibility of tipping a canoe and losing everything that's not tied down is quite real. That said, after dozens of float trips on Missouri streams I can only think of one or two times I've tipped and lost stuff. On the other hand, stuff does get wet so you need to plan accordingly. Don't bring a belt and holster. You want to be able to swim and/or jump into the river at a moments notice. If you have to bring a gun pack it in a watertight box and lash it to your canoe. Really, there's not much need for a gun on the river. Everything along the bank is either private property or some sort of federal/park land where shooting is not allowed. Also, other floaters will not react well if you decide to take up target shooting in their vicinity. About the only use for a gun would be to defend yourself from two-legged predators but that's not likely. Generally "CHILL" is the rule of the river. And no matter what happens, the guy with the gun will be viewed as the asshole. But . . . to answer your question . . . take a Hi-Point or a Jimenez. Again, take nothing you're not willing to sacrifice to the river. A Saturday Night Special .22 in the tackle box would handle just about any eventuality. Anything more than that is just ballast. |
| I do a lot of kayaking. I wear on of those fishing PFDs with several pockets on the front. One of them, lower left side, carries my Glock 43. I use a small homemade kydex trigger guard cover that's attached to the vest. I fu d that this cross draw setup works best seated in the confines of a kayak or canoe. |
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That top photo has to be the Buffalo River.
Used to go there every summer when I was kid. Beautiful place! |
| I haven't done a float trip in quite a few years. I think if I were going today, I'd pack my SW 642 along with some snake shot rounds. Not too much to worry about on the revolver as to water, and I recall seeing lots of snakes on previous trips. Never had to shoot one, but never had to shoot a BG either. |
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If the river has a good current be careful. That water can sweep unattached objects away in a hurry. Lanyards are a must if you plan on going HAM in the water.
This might sound gay but maybe consider wrapping a rubber band around the pistol/holster somehow just for a little extra hold. You could always just break it on draw if needed. Imagine you must dive into a stronger current part of the river to save somebody. Hitting the water at the right angle with current could maybe pop the gun out..... |
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If the river has a good current be careful. That water can sweep unattached objects away in a hurry. Lanyards are a must if you plan on going HAM in the water. This might sound gay but maybe consider wrapping a rubber band around the pistol/holster somehow just for a little extra hold. You could always just break it on draw if needed. Imagine you must dive into a stronger current part of the river to save somebody. Hitting the water at the right angle with current could maybe pop the gun out..... |
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No clue, but any cartridge with sealed primers should be GTG, and you'll want a mechanical retention system for the pistol. This may be a good justification for buying a cheap centerfire something-or-other so that you won't be out more than a couple hundred bucks if something happens to it.
Despite spending most of my time in the Ozarks, I fucking HATE water. Freshwater, saltwater, don't care. HATE the stuff, don't care too much for booze either. I don't do float trips. |
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Where are you floating? What river? Oh well, thanks for all the good info shared in this thread for when we eventually do get out on the water. Now they want to go golfing Sunday after church, then back to their house to BBQ. Hopefully I can get them to push golf to Monday, because I really don't want to miss the race Sunday. |
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Never can be too careful . . . . http://www.chud.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Deliverance-copy.jpg I also carry a spare tire, but have no intention of getting a flat. |
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On my last canoe trip, we flipped the canoe coming through some small rapids. I had my Surefire G2X, my G19 w/TLR-1S in a Raven holster, some factory range fodder FMJ in a couple pmags, and 2 factory mags of Gold Dots.
Altogether, my gear spent at least 20 minutes submerged. I was standing in waist deep water with a moderate current, looking for gear that had fallen out of our canoe. I used my Surefire under water to find stuff that sank. Lessons learned: tie everything down. I had the foresight to stick my medical gear and spare mags into zippered pockets on my jacket. All the Gold Dots were flawless, but ~20% of the range ammo was bad, and I had multiple squibs finding that out. All the lights handled it fine. |
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Used to canoe with either a Smith M13 3" .357 or CA Bulldog 3" .44 SPL using a shoulder rig. Never interfered with paddling. Done lots of diving/swimming in both fresh/salt water while armed. Ammo is quite water proofed esp military ammo. After coming out of the water, rinse with fresh water when you can and clean normally. My normal fishing gun is same Bulldog or Smith 442 with first two rounds of shotshells followed by LSWC/HPs. Use of lanyards on water is highly recommended if you want to retain it.
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