Posted: 10/11/2010 2:22:48 PM EDT
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I swear I've read that some people run a front night sight/standard rear combo.
If I'm correct in remembering this...........what is the advantage? (If I'm wrong in remembering this......disregard, and have a nice day  )
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front night only works better I think in regards to quicker response. You point the glowing tritium and squeeze, not dabble by lining up the rear wasting precious time in close quarters as a knife wielding maniac is stabbing you as you cant get your sights aligned . Its cheaper too, by half. Fine for me anyway.
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I don't understand the argument very well.
If you use only a front sight because it is quicker at night and you don't want to waste precious time...training at quick draw and shot will train you in pointing the gun naturally without even having to use any of the sights. How much precious time are you wasting when you are looking for a front sight anyways? With that argument you probably don't even need any sights lol. |
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I prefer a tritium front sight with white outline and a plain black rear. This makes focusing on the front much easier during quick shooting without the two larger, brighter rear dots distracting your eyes and overpowering the front sight. With a good front sight focus, your eye will naturally center the front sight in the rear without consciously thinking about it. Besides, if it's so dark that you have to line up three glowing dots, then it's too dark to see and identify your target anyway. Here's my Dawson sights on my G17:  Quoted: I don't understand the argument very well. If you use only a front sight because it is quicker at night and you don't want to waste precious time...training at quick draw and shot will train you in pointing the gun naturally without even having to use any of the sights. How much precious time are you wasting when you are looking for a front sight anyways? With that argument you probably don't even need any sights lol. With a close enough target, indexing the the rear of the slide against the target will give you solid hits. However, at further distance where you want to reference your sights, your eye will automatically center the front sight in the rear as long as you have a good front sight focus. Having a very bright front sight and duller rear sight helps accomplish this which is why fiber optic front sights are so popular during daylight. |
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I prefer a tritium front sight with white outline and a plain black rear. This makes focusing on the front much easier during quick shooting without the two larger, brighter rear dots distracting your eyes and overpowering the front sight. With a good front sight focus, your eye will naturally center the front sight in the rear without consciously thinking about it. Besides, if it's so dark that you have to line up three glowing dots, then it's too dark to see and identify your target anyway. Here's my Dawson sights on my G17: Quoted:
I don't understand the argument very well. If you use only a front sight because it is quicker at night and you don't want to waste precious time...training at quick draw and shot will train you in pointing the gun naturally without even having to use any of the sights. How much precious time are you wasting when you are looking for a front sight anyways? With that argument you probably don't even need any sights lol. With a close enough target, indexing the the rear of the slide against the target will give you solid hits. However, at further distance where you want to reference your sights, your eye will automatically center the front sight in the rear as long as you have a good front sight focus. Having a very bright front sight and duller rear sight helps accomplish this which is why fiber optic front sights are so popular during daylight. This. I've also found that night sights illuminate better in the daylight as well. I HATE three-dot sights: even after many thousands of rounds fired and many more in draw and dry fire training in fast sight picture acquisition I still find that three-dot throws me off for an instant. Besides, it SHOULD be cheaper to just get the front sight, I hate paying for the complete set when I am only going to use the front. |
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I don't understand the argument very well. If you use only a front sight because it is quicker at night and you don't want to waste precious time...training at quick draw and shot will train you in pointing the gun naturally without even having to use any of the sights. How much precious time are you wasting when you are looking for a front sight anyways? With that argument you probably don't even need any sights lol. Exactly, so having 3 dots is pointless to some because of this. Having just the front will give you a reference point to know exactly where your gun is pointed but will already be lined up with the rear having trained to have the sights aligned even with your eyes closed when brought up to eye level. |
| If you want to try it without having to purchase a black rear site, just use some black electrical tape and cover your dot(s) or glock square on your rear site. Run a few training sessions with it and see what the pluses and minuses are for you. I never really liked the three dots. I was considering the straight-eight concept, and/or the big-dot on the post. After playing around with it and actually trying it out at the expense of a little black tape, I have settled on a black rear with front night site. It works for me, your preferences may vary. Whatever you choose to use, make sure you practice with it. |
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It makes no sense to me, what are you going to reference your front sight with? At 15 feet, in low light, going to your car, what were you going to use? You special warren tactical MEU SOC/SEAL sight? if im in low light and they are in low light am i going to be makiing delta force head shots from 80 yards behind barracades or am iI goiing to be happy with putting general dots on bodies a FEW feet away? I really get a smell of 34 year old war craft, Ren Fest virgin here. |
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I shoot with only a Front night sight. I've witnessed shooters in low light/no light classes. miss align the three dot night sights and completely miss the target. I have seen the mis-aligned 3-dots on more than one occasion and with various shooters...some that would be considered somewhat experienced. Three dots aligned does not mean the correct dot is in the middle. Less than a perfect grip, when done in darkness and while in a non-standard position or while moving can result in this effect more often than you think. |
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What you have for sight picture is very nearly identical to what I like. Which is why I run Warren Tacticals with the two dot tritiums, like these. The front sight is identical. However the rear sight has a single subdued tritium vial, ala Heinie Strait Eights. The rear vial has a silver ring around the glass, but Birchwood Casey aluminum black will turn it black. The rear vial is also yellow in illumination, and maybe a third to half as bright as the front sights green tritium. In good light the rear sight is functionally plain black to me. However I can also get perfect sight alignment in total darkness. Another sight set with similar features and less cost are Ameriglo Pro Operators. |
For those running front and rear tritium it is never so dark that their sights are undefined. |
Quoted: What you have for sight picture is very nearly identical to what I like. Which is why I run Warren Tacticals with the two dot tritiums, like these. The front sight is identical. However the rear sight has a single subdued tritium vial, ala Heinie Strait Eights. The rear vial has a silver ring around the glass, but Birchwood Casey aluminum black will turn it black. The rear vial is also yellow in illumination, and maybe a third to half as bright as the front sights green tritium. In good light the rear sight is functionally plain black to me. However I can also get perfect sight alignment in total darkness. Another sight set with similar features and less cost are Ameriglo Pro Operators. I've had the Warren 2-Dot setup, and while it's much better than a standard 3-dot setup, I still find the rear tritium distracting. I also didn't like the 6 o'clock hold the Warrens were designed for. |
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Quoted: Where could one buy just the front sight? I'm specifically looking for just a front sight for my Kimber Pro Carry II. I got mine from Dawson Precision. |
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What you have for sight picture is very nearly identical to what I like. Which is why I run Warren Tacticals with the two dot tritiums, like these. The front sight is identical. However the rear sight has a single subdued tritium vial, ala Heinie Strait Eights. The rear vial has a silver ring around the glass, but Birchwood Casey aluminum black will turn it black. The rear vial is also yellow in illumination, and maybe a third to half as bright as the front sights green tritium. In good light the rear sight is functionally plain black to me. However I can also get perfect sight alignment in total darkness. Another sight set with similar features and less cost are Ameriglo Pro Operators. I've had the Warren 2-Dot setup, and while it's much better than a standard 3-dot setup, I still find the rear tritium distracting. I also didn't like the 6 o'clock hold the Warrens were designed for. You can get .245 tall front sights for Warrens which give you POA=POI at ~20 yards. Thats what i'm currently running. The stock height is .215 and gives you a 6:00 hold. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: What you have for sight picture is very nearly identical to what I like. Which is why I run Warren Tacticals with the two dot tritiums, like these. The front sight is identical. However the rear sight has a single subdued tritium vial, ala Heinie Strait Eights. The rear vial has a silver ring around the glass, but Birchwood Casey aluminum black will turn it black. The rear vial is also yellow in illumination, and maybe a third to half as bright as the front sights green tritium. In good light the rear sight is functionally plain black to me. However I can also get perfect sight alignment in total darkness. Another sight set with similar features and less cost are Ameriglo Pro Operators. I've had the Warren 2-Dot setup, and while it's much better than a standard 3-dot setup, I still find the rear tritium distracting. I also didn't like the 6 o'clock hold the Warrens were designed for. You can get .245 tall front sights for Warrens which give you POA=POI at ~20 yards. Thats what i'm currently running. The stock height is .215 and gives you a 6:00 hold. Good to know. Where did you find that setup? I've only seen the standard set. |