Posted: 5/19/2011 10:06:15 PM EDT
| I have looked and have not found much discussion on Fusion 1911's. I would be interested in a lightweight commander series . From some picture's I have seen they look clean ( few roll marks, and excessive writing) and well built. Other than how they look I know very little about them. Can some of you more knowledgable about 1911's ( which would be most of you) give me some usefull information about the quality and reliability. Thanks |
|
I have a friend who is an LEO in Eastern Idaho who has one of their weapons.
He has carried 1911's for 20+ years and knows them well, so I can't say he is just picky, but yeah, he is picky. It took him about 5 months to get it from Fusion Arms, and about $1,500.00 bucks, and then he had issues with it from the very beginning. The company owner called him before the sale, touting up the weapon, very cordial, and friendly, and responded to e-mails promptly. After he got it, here's what happened that he told me about; The light rail would not hold his Streamlight, it fell off. The company said that it was the Streamlights FAULT as it was not a NORMAL Streamlight. The finish started to wear, immediately after he started to shoot it, as in pieces flaking off. The sights as ordered were not what what he ordered. The company owner decided he would like his selection better. The company said all .45 magazines would fit, and when he got it home, only one brand one fit. Not even the Chip McCormick's nor the Wilson Combat mags would fit. The trigger was supposed to be 3 pounds, and was more like 7 for each shot. As far as I know, the only thing it did do, was shoot straight. Now, from what I was told, the company owner will not return e-mails, nor telephone calls. Knowing what I heard, and I have not seen the weapon, nor have I shot it, I would look elsewhere if your gonna spend money on a custom weapon. |
|
Never owned one of their pistols...........have bought several barrels from them..........one was a drop-in ramped 9mm government length barrel in stainless........it dropped right in...........and shoots better then some of the ones I paid several hundred dollars to have fitted.........
Bob Serva is the president/owner........he has always........answered my emails on a timely basis |
|
Quoted:
Never owned one of their pistols...........have bought several barrels from them..........one was a drop-in ramped 9mm government length barrel in stainless........it dropped right in...........and shoots better then some of the ones I paid several hundred dollars to have fitted......... Bob Serva is the president/owner........he has always........answered my emails on a timely basis Wasn't he the owner/CEO/president of Dan Wesson or something like that when they sold out to CZ and that's when he went and started Fusion Firearms? I've heard nothing but good things about them but I've never owned or even shot one their firearms before but I have used quite a few of their parts and never had any issues. |
|
I've got a Fusion Commander. Bob built it to my spec's, was incredibly responsive to emails/calls, and answered all my questions. Honestly, I have not taken to the pistol like I thought I would, but that is certainly not the fault of the gun. It's built well, accurate, and reliable...at least to the extent I have fired it. It costs less than a comparable Brown/Wilson/Baer/NH and its got an ion bond finish to boot.
Maybe if I ever shoot it more than 100 rounds, I'll grow to love it more. Dunno. Here's a pic of my gun: 
|
|
I have never owned one.
I have read a lot of reviews, most good, some bad. much like the first reply, if it is bad, it just seems to get worse. like the second poster, if it is good, can't say enough good about it. most of the complaints I read were not what I ordered, some finishing issues, and the odd fail to feed or fire, but those were far and few between. Most of the failed to shoot got corrected fastest. the not what I ordered, or finish issues, seemed to drag on the most. or never quite got resolved. though the price is different, by about 500 bucks, at the wait times currently listed, I would just do a springfield custom. but that is just me. still cheaper than a new wilson,baer or nighthawk. |
|
Mine went "Click" and NOT "Bang" the first time I pulled the trigger.
25% to 30% failure to fire rate. Regardless of ammo type. Sent it right back.Two week turn around. After being "Repaired" it would only fail to fire at 10-15% and crush brass at another 15-20%. To top it off Bob Serva called me a liar right here in this forum and said that I don't own a Fusion. |
| I ordered a Fusion a bit more than a month ago now. Before I ordered I read a LOT of good and a LOT of bad reviews of Fusions guns. Hail Caesar has a big thread going on Glocktalk's 1911 subforum about a rather bad order. After all was said and done though, Serva was the only custom shop maker that would do what I wanted without costing my $3k+. |
|
I have bought many parts from Fusion. They all performed as claimed and required minimal fitting.
I have a Fusion Commander pistol. I bought all the parts from Fusion thinking I would assemble the pistol as my first venture into assembling a 1911 style pistol. When I ran into some difficulties Bob Serva was very helpful. he answered all of my questions and emails and problems were resolved quickly. There were some issues with the frame bit Mr. Serva took care of them in short time. I now have a very nice bob-tailed SS framed Commander 1911 with a black slide. it shoots very well and after the obligatory 200 round break in period it is my daily concealed carry pistol. There were no malfunctions during the break in period other than one caused by an old worn magazine. |
|
Quoted:
I've got a Fusion Commander. Bob built it to my spec's, was incredibly responsive to emails/calls, and answered all my questions. Honestly, I have not taken to the pistol like I thought I would, but that is certainly not the fault of the gun. It's built well, accurate, and reliable...at least to the extent I have fired it. It costs less than a comparable Brown/Wilson/Baer/NH and its got an ion bond finish to boot. Maybe if I ever shoot it more than 100 rounds, I'll grow to love it more. Dunno. How has it not met your expectations? What would you change if you had it to do again? |
|
Quoted:
Quoted:
I've got a Fusion Commander. Bob built it to my spec's, was incredibly responsive to emails/calls, and answered all my questions. Honestly, I have not taken to the pistol like I thought I would, but that is certainly not the fault of the gun. It's built well, accurate, and reliable...at least to the extent I have fired it. It costs less than a comparable Brown/Wilson/Baer/NH and its got an ion bond finish to boot. Maybe if I ever shoot it more than 100 rounds, I'll grow to love it more. Dunno. How has it not met your expectations? What would you change if you had it to do again? Fair questions. First, I did not take to the bobtail as much as I thought I would. Second, sumbitch feels heavy. I guess, in the end, it does not feel different enough from my government size guns to justify the expense and wait. Again, none of that is the fault of the gun...and it is built exactly, and I mean exactly, how I wanted. If I had to do it again, I'd most definitely go with a lightweight frame to see if that better met my expectations. I may well do so in the future. |
|
I have never bought one of their pistols, but a few years ago I did buy a scope mount that was supposed to mount under the dust shield to a lower rail. I could never get it to fit. Supposedly their rails are not made to picatinny specs. I have read about so many people having trouble with their pistols that I would pass. For what they charge for their pistols they should run trouble free out of the box.
Jim |
|
I can attest to their rails being off.
A deputy I work with ordered one and got it about a year ago. The rail will only fit an M3. Our department will buy us TLR1s so he got one and had to do extensive dremeling on the body of the light to get it to fit onto the rail. The Ionbond finish took quite a beating from the fitting of the light, but it's on now. Additionally, the feed ramp on the ramped barrel (which he specifically wanted so it would feed HPs) is so coarsely finished that it only feeds RN ball, and even then it does a number on the bullet as it's chambering. |
|
My first fusion's grip safety didn't work. I shipped it back on my own dime. I got it back, the grip safety still didn't work. I called again and was assured that the safety was fixed. It turns out that when the gun was put back together, the guy putting it back together put in the old grip safety. I told Bob that the gun was now worthless to me since I would not be allowed to carry it if it had to have a safety fixed twice. I traded the pistol to a buddy who wanted it for competition. (Got a Springfield Professional in return!!!)
Of course, I had already ordered and put money down on another. I called to cancel my order and was told that they would keep 30% of my deposit, and that policy was on his website. I told Bob that nowhere on his website did it mention a penalty for cancelling an order. After discussing it with him, we settled on a lower %...I don't remember what it was off the top of my head, but in the end I waited (and sweat bullets) for the pistol I had ordered. When I received the pistol (a few months late, but I expect that with firearm manufacturers) it was okay. It shot fine, but I was so soured by my initial experience, I sold it, bought a HK45C, and an Ipad and took the family out to eat a few times. If it were up to me again, I would stick with what I know, Wilson, Springfield Custom Shop etc... |