Posted: 3/10/2012 2:48:11 PM EDT
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I've got a round, which I think actually may have fired, but I'm not sure, so it might just be a casing, stuck in the chamber. The slide will come back only far enough that you can see about 1/8 of an inch of the shell. You can see the extractor grabbing it and pulling it back, but the slide won't go any further. I've pushed it forward, pointed it downrange, cocked the hammer, and fired, but no bang. It might even be a dud round.
There's nothing I can do to get the slide to come back. So, I removed the magazine, kept the hammer down, and have put it in the safe until I can get some help on what to do. Any ideas? I love this gun and it is extremely rare to have a ftf or fte. The ammo was CCI, which shoots well in it. Any help would be appreciated. I had hoped to shoot this thing quite a bit more today. 
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| I didn't even think about it being the guide rod. I was thinking it was a stuck round which sometimes happens with larger calibers and usually indicates out of spec ammo. But if it was a broken guide rod, wouldn't the broken piece fall out of the front of the slide? |
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Ok, I examined it further today, and with the hammer cocked, it slides back a little over 1/8 inch with no resistance. I pulled the extractor off of the casing, and the slide would not come back. I'm fairly convinced it has nothing to do with the casing.
The guide rod still appears to be in place. There is something mechanical going on in there. The slide comes to a stop like it is coming up against something solid. I'm afraid to force it, for fear of breaking something else or causing a bigger problem. I've sent an e-mail to ATI for technical help. I wouldn't be surprised if this has something to do with the guide rod or spring, but I really don't have a great deal of knowledge on these things. I appreciate all the help that has been given and any more suggestions that may come my way. This sucks because this gun is so fun to shoot. I'd love to go shoot it again today, but it doesn't appear I'll have the chance. |
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As an idea. if it won't come back, what about taking out the slide stop, pin, and screw, and the barrel bushing, and see if you can get the slide to go forward? You could then pop the round out of the chamber via a cleaning rod and go from there. Good idea. I'll give that a go. I can then see what might be broken, if that's the issue. |
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Ok, just tried this. The slide won't come back far enough for the slide stop to be removed. I'm afraid of breaking something if I try to force it, such as with the rubber mallet idea. At this point, I'm going to see what ATI technical support has to say about it. I'll be shocked if something isn't broken inside this thing. It doesn't look like it has anything to do with the casing that is still in it.
I'm stumped. 
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Can you take the barrel bushing out, and take the pressure of the spring? If the guide rod is broken, having the bushing out would allow the broken section to fall out and then remove the slide. After that, I'm stumped. Ok, good suggestion. The slide was able to go back and the casing came right out. The problem now is that I can't get the slide to go forward with the guide rod and spring in its normal position, so I can't disassemble the gun. The slide still stops. The slide stop lever won't come out. I'll keep messing with it. At least I now have the casing out and can work on it without wondering if it might still be a live round. I was 99% sure it was spent, but until I could see it, I didn't want to do anything that could cause it to fire. |
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Ok, got it and test fired 10 rounds without issue. There's a little scrape or groove that is worn into the end of the guide rod that I think is somehow the culprit. I'll be seeing if ATI will send me a new guide rod, or if there is a better aftermarket guide rod. I'm open to suggestions, if anyone has any.
Thanks again for the help, especially 1stID. Here's the end of the guide rod. You can see the scrape, gouge, or whatever you want to call it near the tip. I oiled the heck out of it for now, until I get a new guide rod. 
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I picked up this guide rod for mine. I had not had any problems with it, but this looked a lot better for just a little bit of money:
http://www.zrtacticalsolutions.com/products/gsg1911guiderod/ I've put about 500 rounds through it with this guide rod in - no issues. Good luck. |
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I picked up this guide rod for mine. I had not had any problems with it, but this looked a lot better for just a little bit of money: http://www.zrtacticalsolutions.com/products/gsg1911guiderod/ I've put about 500 rounds through it with this guide rod in - no issues. Good luck. This looks like the ticket! I'll probably order tonight. I still need the little bushing that replaces the rubber one, though, from GSG. I'm sure they'll hook me up for free on that one. As for the spring, mine looks fine, so I'll just use it with the new guide rod. Thanks again!! |
| I have a question..PRIOR to this problem, had you disassembled the weapon and in the process removed the slide spring? If so, might you have reversed the spring when re-installing it? One end of the spring is a smaller diameter than the other...the LARGER diameter goes to the FRONT, the small to the rear. If you reverse them the small end of the spring can get bound-up on itself and the guide rod. |
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I have a question..PRIOR to this problem, had you disassembled the weapon and in the process removed the slide spring? If so, might you have reversed the spring when re-installing it? One end of the spring is a smaller diameter than the other...the LARGER diameter goes to the FRONT, the small to the rear. If you reverse them the small end of the spring can get bound-up on itself and the guide rod. It is certainly possible, but I've also heard from owners on another forum that guide rods have been a problem at around 500 rounds, which is where mine is. I ordered my new guide rod tonight. 
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Now that your problem has been solved I have a question. How's the feed ramp on the GSG? I looked at another brand and it had an odd split down the center. I think it was a Colt. I'll have to look at it. I'm away from home for the next week, so I'll check it when I get home. |
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