Posted: 9/3/2007 8:54:06 PM EDT
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To: Glock and 1911 owners How do you do transitioning between the two? I have been shooting my G23 quite a bit and am rather decent with it, at least for the purposes i want to be. I have the 1911 bug bad and I have had my eye on a Springer Loaded. What is the general consensus, is it feasible to be proficient on both types of pistol? |
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The trigger & Safety doesn't affect me at all, but the Glock extreme grip angle is just a bitch to use after one is tuned to the J.M.B. perfection of the 1911. I'm going to have the Grip Modification done to both of my Glock 17s to try and get closer to the 1911 / Beretta M-9 natural grip angle. BIGGER_HAMMER 
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With the 1911, you point your trigger finger at the target. With the Glock, you have to roll your wrist forward to point your thumb at the target. As long as I keep this in mind, I find it works well enough to get more or less on target with no huge problems. Of course, the proper approach to the problem is to shoot the 1911s exclusively. I can't remember the last time I shot one of my Glocks. |
+1 I never understood why someone has an issue shooting a Glock over a 1911. I have several different handguns, HK USP, P7 P9S, Glock, SIG, Steyr, Beretta, Walther, CZ and Kimber 1911 and I don not have a issue with any grip angle. |
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I think you can be proficient with both platforms. I will often take a 1911 to the range along with a Glock and will carry one of them to and from teh range on my person. That said, I have heard the horror stories about a person who trained with a Glock, got a 1911, and in a stressful life-threatening situation, drew the 1911 and pulled the trigger (because he was so used to his Glock), and forgot to disengage the thumb safety. The gun did not go bang. And the pause allowed the perp to draw and fire, killing the 1911 owner. So there's always that to consider. I guess that's why some people say stick to one platform and practice only with that one platform... |
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That's exactly why I train and carry only one sidearm. (Glock) Under extreme stress you may try to disengage a safety that isn't there or try to pull the trigger with the safety on. The grip angle/trigger type is a very minor problem in comparison. If you do not CCW, use a handgun for HD, etc. then you should have little to no problem on the range when transitioning from one type to the other. Using multiple handguns on the range should have little to no impact on how you use them under stress, as long as you train with only one and give that one significantly more range time, more often. |
| Get the 1911 and shoot it. You still focus on the front sight, line up your sights properly. You use the same high grip. Make sure you know about the manual safety though. You are going to have to get used to taking it off before you fire. Gently pull the trigger and allow the weapon to go off, and bam bullseye. Just practice with it you will get good with it. I can shoot any firearm you hand me well enough even if i've never shot it before. Basic skills don't change. Practice makes perfect. |
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I shoot both but the 1911 is a "toy" for me. I shoot it now and again just for something different but I don't take my time with it that seriously. My 9mm Glocks are my "serious" guns and those are the ones I make sure to practice and stay profiecent with. I imagine if you have the right kind of personality and have enough time and money to seriously train with both, you could become very proficent with both but personally, I don't think it's a good use of time or money. Multiple platforms are fine for range toys or safe queens but for serious work, I would pick one platform and stick with it. |
| Thanks for all of the replies! I guess I will just have to check it out. At this point the G23 is the go to pistol and will probably remain so for quite a while, but you never know it could be replaced. The way I see it now, adding a good 1911 to the collection will give me an awesome range gun, and maybe something more down the road. |
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Its not nearly as hard as you think. Shoot high thumb- safety issue gone- I just hold/shoot my Glock like I hold a 1911, and I have yet to miss deactivating the safety on my 1911. Even when shooting a Glock, I sweep the "safety" down when I draw, and flip it back up before I reholster. As far as grip angle, it takes me about 2-3 "practice draws" to switch back. After that, I am good to go. Good news is they feel different enough, that your mind can differentiate between them. |
| the two guns feel so different that you will know which one you have in your hand if you practice enough. I never get confused about the safety but i have to readjust for the way the glock aims higher for me. the 1911 is a service pistol and the glock a combat pistol. most people when they shoot in a life or death will shoot lower anyway and the glock might help since it aims higher. |