Posted: 8/3/2012 1:35:11 PM EDT
I just picked up a used G19. Took it to the range and put a box of Blazer 115 grain ammo through it. I had two failures, which is unacceptable since my G23 has thousands of rounds through and not a single failure. Now I have had stove pipes before but never a failure like this:
Sorry about the shitty I phone pic. The brass is stuck above the extractor. Both failures were identical. Is this an ammo or gun related failure? I also got hit in the head with an empty case. Here is the gun 
The slide stop lever is hard to press to release the slide. I know that the slide stop is not a slide release but I'm wondering if that could be related. I want to use this gun for carry so I want to make sure it is reliable. Thanks! |
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Looks like a very early Gen 2, even if it was a late model Gen 2 it would be over 15 years old. Did you change out the springs? If you want this as a carry gun you need to change out some mandatory Glock upgrades, like the slide lock spring. Also it would be wise to just buy a 19 dollar OEM spring kit and replace all springs as you have no idea how long or how many rounds have been through the handgun.
A weak recoil spring could cause this as well as some other things. Either way I would not make any used gun my carry piece unless it has been inspected thoroughly. |
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The serial number starts with WW, so I believe that it was made in '91. Should I do the spring changes myself or would it be worth it to send it to Glock? I would like to get this gun running ASAP, but I have a G23 to carry so I'm not in dire need of the 19 at the moment.
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Well I would look around for a Glock armorer in your area before sending it off. A large dealer/distributor of Glock's might have one in store. The Armorer will be able to determine if this is a part replacement issue or just ammo. The recoil spring you can do yourself during normal takedown cleaning. This early model might need the firing pin/firing pin safety and trigger bar replaced as well. Glocks are not that hard to figure out or work on but you don't want to screw something up if your not confident in your skills. If all this fails you might want to send it into Glock.
Great looking Gen 2 looks almost new. |
| Does the Gen 2 have the original black parts and uncaptured recoil spring? I got my Gen 2 back last summer after being stolen in the early 90's. I had it upgraded by a local Glock armorer. Cost me $35, since the new parts were a needed as per Glock upgrade. Since then I have put close to 3k through her and not a single FTF or stove pipe. I have had the occasional shell hit me in the head....But that is usually when I am thinking about midget porn. |
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My carry 19 is a Gen 2, serial starts YW so mine was made a few months after yours in Jan 1992. It was a sold to me as a police trade in 1997. I wish I had bought the one right next to it that had NYPD stamped in the slide, but they wanted an extra $35 for that one and I was young and dumb.
I didn't change anything on it and has worked pretty much perfect since I bought it. A reasonable estimate would be 12,000 to 15,000 rounds through it. I have had maybe 3 or 4 dude rounds that just didn't go off in the glock or anything else. I believe those primers were contaminated with oil. I had an IMI blue tip round blow a primer out and it got stuck between the barrel and the slide and prevented it from going into battery. So, all that was just bad ammo problems. About 2 years ago, roughly 18 years after it was made, I ordered new springs for it all around since it is my carry gun. I was surprised how much stiffer the new main recoil spring was. The new magazine springs were 2 inches longer than the 18 year old mag springs. I don't know if there was a change in spec, or if the old springs had taken a set. It does seem that the gun is snappier with the new spings. I recommend a spring change all around for yours too. I didn't change any parts except I did put on trijicon sights and a lone wolf extended slide release. I am very confident in my old G19. It goes bang every time as long as the ammo is good. |
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That is the NYPD "phase 3 malfunction."
It is well documented and has occurred across all generations of the G19. It is a type of malfunction that is native to the G19. Glock has tried to fix it but has not been successful. Google the type of malfunction and read the reports on it. |