Posted: 11/8/2005 12:15:38 AM EDT
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I have been shooting Glock pistols for about 15 years, and up until around a year to a year and half ago, I started noticing that the finish is not staying on the weapons as good as they used to. The 2nd Gen Glocks turn the Glock gray and the first 3rd Gen Glocks didn't do this. I have a G17, G19, G22, and a G35. All have been purchased within the last year and half. The finish (black) is wearing off surprisingly fast, on all of them. I use Leather and Kydex holsters and after about a couple of months of IDPA Matches and Range sessions the finish has rubbed off in streaks. I know the Tenifer Finish is still underneath, but it looks bad. Has anybody else had this problem? Is this a new problem since they've started finishing them here in the US? I'm looking to sell the G22 to fund a G34, but the G22 looks like it has been through a couple of tours in the Sandbox. Hell, it hasn't even seen 1,000 rounds. Thanks for any help. |
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The slides are not being produced here in the states (only the frames) so I doubt it has anything to do with the finish on the slide but my first recommendation would be to call Glock directly. Even though Tenifer is tough as hell it will wear under hard use and it sounds like you actually use yours so... Can you post pictures so we can see what you are talking about? |
funny you posted this b/c i called Glock yesterday about my 24c. I have probably less than 700 on my 24c and after cleaning it yesterday i noticed on the inside of the slide next to the porting i have bare metal. you can actually feel where he finish starts and stops. I've never seen that before. Glock said it happens all the time and i could send it in if i wanted to for them to look at. I'll post some pictures if anyone cares to see it.J |
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Thanks M2arc. I had heard that Glock (factory) in Symrna, GA put the black finish on the slides when they arrived in the States. The finish is coming off like accelerated holster wear. I wish I could post pics. I do good to post a reply. Thanks for the reply gentlemen. I'll call them right now. I'll post what I find out from Glock. Duane |
That's a big negative. The Tennifer process is a big no-no here in the US because of EPA regulations. Is it flaking off or just showing wear? If something is flaking off then your slide(s) have been refinished with something else. Here's some good info from HotRod9mm:
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Thank You Researcher. I knew about how the Tenifer was applied and how it's a big EPA "no-no" for application here in the States, but like Researcher said, the black finish is just like a covering or "finish". The actual Tenifer is claer. So all you would see is what apeared to be a silver (unfinished) slide. That being said the older models Did Not do this. The finish on those would turn that wonderful Glock Gray. The Guys with the older models will know what I mean. That's why I was wondering if the finish was put on here in the States. The factory will refinish it for you. Contacted Glock this morning and all they said was send it in. We'll look at it. They will determine if it is a factory defect. Oh well, I'm not that far from Symrna. Thanks again everyone. |
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Lets see if I understand this properly, and maybe it will bring some clarification as well: 1. The tenifer is a metal treatment done prior to the application of the colored finishing. 2. Tenifer increases the corrosion resistance of the metal. 3. The colored finish is applied on top of the tenifer treated metal, and can be done in the States just fine. 4. The 1st and 2nd generation colored finishes could be applied in the States as well, but the Tenifer treatment process which involves the use of cyanide may not be allowed by the EPA (not familiar with all EPA regs but sounds right to me.) 5. Glock recently changed the colored finish and it does not wear as well as the older colored finishes. 6. My 2nd gen G17 has no color in several places due to holster wear but it still doesn't seem prone to rusting. 7. I would like to have the slide refinished and would like to know what kind of finish I can have applied that will wear as well for another 15 years of heavy use. |
1) Yes 2) Yes 3) Yes(but IIRC it is still done in Austria) 4) It was Black Phosphate, not sure if it can be done in the states as I'm not up on EPA rules. 5) IIRC they changed 4-5yrs ago. From what we have been reading it does not hold up as well. 6) True(see #1 above) 7) Call Glock and ask, I don't think they offer the older finish but you never know. |
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Thanks. Just making sure I was absorbing all of the info right and I was sensing that others may have been confused as well. I have been of the understanding that the Tenifer process was the most protective part of the process for the last 12 or 13 years, just making sure i hadn't been spreading B.S. to others for the last decade when recommending GLOCKs. Good to know I was of the correct understanding as I have been involved in providing info that has led to several of my friends purchasing GLOCKs. My own well worn example being used as a selling point. |
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I'm not really, "worried" about the looks of the weapon, but I would one day like to get the shiney spots covered again. In fact, I kinda like the "this a well used tool" look. It's kinda like well worn blue jeans that started out dark blue and stiff and are now soft and sky blue with white patches. It's this broken-in look that keeps me from refinishing it any time real soon. |