Posted: 4/29/2007 7:07:55 PM EDT
| Just curious as to the pros and cons of carrying Springfield XD or Glock? |
I'm feeling dejavu for some reason... Carry a Glock with peace of mind for safety, operation, simplicity, cost, availability of parts, cost of spare mags & other parts, never have to worry about an external safety getting in the way, consistent grip angle along all Glock platforms ensures comfort when transitioning between different models. |
++ to all of the above. However, I have found that the slimmer profile of my Colt makes for easier concealment than my Glock or my XD. Am considering going to a small revolver with a pocket holster for summer carry though. |
and that ain't no shit!
| I don't understand why this topic keeps coming up. A Glock is a COMBAT-PROVEN piece, it has been used successfully in many armed conflicts in the street and on the battlefield. Many nations armed services carry Glocks, more PD's in the US carry it than any other pistol. What armed force, or major PD carry the XD? Furthermore, the Glock is made in Austria, top notch manufacturing. The XD is made in Hungary, nuff said. For a carry gun, go with a proven system, and out of the two, the Glock is the only proven system. |
Croatia i believe 
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So has the 1911, but may at ARFCOM still manage to assume that all of those are shit.
For the price they're paying, it's no surprise.
What exactly does that have to do with how well it works?
Again, what does that have to do with how well it works?
The XD has proven to be pretty damn good to me. I don't own one, but I've shot several and there was no problem at all, other than my dislike of the trigger. Hitting the Glock kool-aide today, are we? |
Call it kool-aide, call it whatever you want, I want the gun I carry to hold up to a higher standard. If you're in doubt, check out ADCO's Glock test. Try this with an XD!!! |
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I remember Big Bores test from when he did it and posted it. You don't need to remind me. Next time I think my CCW gun is going to need to do all that, I'll remember that. For now, I need a CCW gun that is accurate, reliable under the conditions in which it will exist, and fits me. Offhandedly dismissing the XD makes no sense. Hell, the XDs that I fired were, if you go by malfs, more reliable than my very own 17. |
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First of all I own both and like both and would recomend BOTH. Get both. Certain brand freaks need to come to grips that there are other pistols out there that are "Proven and Reliable". I guess if they wanted to argue about what military and police use they could also say go M-9. The bottom line in this argument is not reliability or accuracy. The bottom line is ergonomics and preference for certain things on one pistol over the other. "This brand is proven" is not accurate because they both are even if it does hurt it is the truth. I would say get which one fits you hand the best and you like because the XD is not any better than the Glock and the Glock is not any better than the XD. |
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I knew it would degenerate down to this but, oh well here I go. XD's are notorious for going back to the factory to be "refinished", Glocks tenifer holds up to anything short of bead blasting. Just how is the XD as proven as the Glock pistol? Because someone owns one and brings it to the range and shoots a couple of thousand rounds through it doesn't mean it's "proven." As for the M9, read, "To Ride, Shoot Straight, and Speak the Truth" by Lt. Col. Jeff Cooper. He called that one as soon as it happened. The M9 and the 9mm cartridge were chosen for political reasons, not because it was the best pistol for the job, we already had that in the 1911. So I don't start a 9mm debate, I'm referring to the 9mm NATO 124 gr FMJ cartridge that almost all agree is not sufficient for one shot or sometimes multiple shot stops, not to the modern hollow points that we all use and love. Notwithstanding Col. Cooper's and my own opinion of the M9, every military unit who has a choice in the matter chooses something diffrent: the USCG is switching to Sig's, the USMC special operations troops went back to 1911's, the SEALs use Sigs or HK's. Some have even chosen Glocks. Back to the Glock vs XD, I'm not saying that the XD is unreliable, a bad pistol, etc., it's just not in the same league as the Glock. Yes they both have polymer frames and are striker fired, but that doesn't make them the same. Finally, any pistol that you can't get spare parts for is not a pistol worth having IMHO. P.S. I wouldn't want to be staring down the wrong end of an XD or an M9 for that matter. 
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Older XD's had some problems with rusting slides due to having a FUBAR finish. Newer ones with a proper melonite finish don't have this problem. I don't even know what the rest of your post has to do with the topic at hand. WTF does the M9 and the 9mm round have to do with this? We're talking Glock-series pistols versus XD-series pistols. |
They do not have the same finish anymore and when they did they were refinished for FREE. However once again THEY DO NOT HAVE THE SAME FINISH.
LOL Just because it is not a Glock does not mean it is not proven. The XD design has been around for years and it works well. It is proven and does not have to be a "forum" favorite to be proven. The argument that it is unproven is not accurate. Even if it was a new design that argument would be that no one should buy any new pistols because they are "unproven".
I have the book and I love it. However it proves my point that just because a police force or military uses something does not(edit) mean it is the best. I love how everybody uses that argument until you mention the M-9. Yes I am sure politics never came into play on anyother weapos. The M-9 is a fine pistol in my opinion though but I just wanted to point out the hole in the argument.
The pistols are in excactly the same leage. They both work they are both accurate enough and they are in the same price range and when the M&P has been out for a while and shows it is a reliable pistol and not a dressed up Sigma it will be in the same league and the Styer is in the same league as well. Your Glock is a good pistol in the $500 but that is all it is. |
| Let's face it, most modern pistols that are well maintained and made by a reputable manufacturer are going to go bang almost all the time. I like the fact that even when neglected, a Glock will still function, some have logged over 150,000 rounds as rental guns that received only marginal care at best. I also like that you can order any and all spare parts short of a new receiver from any number of vendors and do all the work yourself. A pistol that's away at the manufacturer being fixed isn't much use to you. That's it for me on this subject. |
A Glock over the Croatia wonder any day of the week. I like XDs but lets not get carried away and compare them to Glocks. Mine had a weak finish to say the least. It also rusted quick and I have seen more than one break a spring. The holsters, sights and overall parts availability for the glocks is just so good. I do like the XDs grip (on the .45acp) and how the trigger breaks better. Trigger reset is another story. E.T.A. Not my pic but mine did the same thing. |
The density of these "debates" is getting rather worse, as of late. Its been done and the XD preformed similarly. And before the followers of either "religion" accuse my of favoritism, I own both and NOT because of any "test". |
However if you are still concerned you can still get a stainless slide with no finish to wear off. 
I think the Croation Army carries it. world.guns.ru/handguns/hg48-e.htm |