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12/7/2003 4:37:54 PM EDT
Hello all-

I recently bought a new Glock 21C, and am having some trouble. No matter what i do, i cannot get the slide to release from the frame. I don't know if there's a defect or if the problem is me, but following the instructions for dissasembly 100% isn't working. The slide won't come loose or forward off of the frame, after about 1000 times of trying. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

-D
12/7/2003 4:42:08 PM EDT
[#1]
What are the first three letters of the serial number? Second, make sure that the trigger is not in the forward position before attempting to dissasemble.

Does the slide move at all forward and stop at a certain point before completly dismounting, or does it not budge at all?
12/7/2003 4:45:10 PM EDT
[#2]
The first 3 letters are FHU. I've made sure that the trigger is in the fired position. As for the slide, it won't budge past the point of locking back into place.
12/7/2003 4:48:19 PM EDT
[#3]
You are forcing the slide back 1/4" while simultaneously pulling the thingamajig downward, right?
12/7/2003 4:49:54 PM EDT
[#4]
Yeah, i am. I've shot, cleaned, and dissasembled/reassembled a freinds model 19 and didn't have any trouble.
12/7/2003 4:57:37 PM EDT
[#5]
Ok I know you did this but-
1-make sure gun is unloaded
2-pull trigger
3-pull slide back while pulling down on metal bar directly above the trigger
4-slide slide forward off of frame

Did you just purchase this pistol?
Have you disassambled/reassambled it before?
12/7/2003 4:59:20 PM EDT
[#6]
Yeah, just purchased brand new as of yesterday. I went through all the steps, but sliding the frame forward it won't come loose or past the point of locking into place.
12/7/2003 5:00:03 PM EDT
[#7]
Also this is the first time i've attempted to dissasemble the gun.
12/7/2003 5:07:41 PM EDT
[#8]
Try this - this is common with NY1 or NY2 trigger springs.

A: Show clear and ensure empty chamber. <--- VERY IMPORTANT!
B: Dry fire.
C: Pull back on slide slightly and pull down takedown levers.

If the slide moves forward slowly and does not want to come off the frame, while pulling the trigger back - attempt to remove the slide.
12/7/2003 5:12:18 PM EDT
[#9]
Out of curiosity, what are NY1 and NY2 trigger springs? I tried those steps, but still nothing. The slide moves forward just like it's being cocked, and won't move past being locked into place.
12/7/2003 5:27:56 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
Out of curiosity, what are NY1 and NY2 trigger springs? I tried those steps, but still nothing. The slide moves forward just like it's being cocked, and won't move past being locked into place.



They're incredibly heavy trigger springs that makes democrats happy and your groupings stink.

Hmm. Are you sure that the trigger is all the way back before you pull down the takedown levers? I've made the mistake of attempting disassembly with the trigger forward.
12/7/2003 5:30:40 PM EDT
[#11]
Yeah, im positive the trigger is all the way back. I've gone through it about 3 thousand times now. Anyhow, i guess i may just have to take it back by the shop tomorrow and see whats up with the darn thing.
12/7/2003 5:32:18 PM EDT
[#12]
Well in the concept of being a nice guy....

I've got my cellphone around the house somewhere and my glocks in the trunk of my car if you want to attempt some type of tech support in reverse. I had help with my Kimber when I first got it, so I've got to "pay it forward".
12/7/2003 5:35:19 PM EDT
[#13]
Thanks, i appreciate it. I'll grab my cell from my car. My name is Daniel, by the way. Thanks for the replies.
12/7/2003 5:41:33 PM EDT
[#14]
My cell # is 213-804-1442 if you or anyone feels a need to lend a hand if possible. Thanks!

Daniel
12/7/2003 5:54:23 PM EDT
[#15]
Thanks once again, DukeOfUrl for your help. I apprecaite it.
12/8/2003 8:51:09 AM EDT
[#16]
Well, did you get the slide off?  Did Dukeofurl help you out?  What was wrong?

I just purchased a Glock 19 on Saturday and broke it down and cleaned it last night with out a problem but I have been watching this thread just in case.  

Give us an update.
12/8/2003 10:28:07 AM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
Well, did you get the slide off?  Did Dukeofurl help you out?  What was wrong?

I just purchased a Glock 19 on Saturday and broke it down and cleaned it last night with out a problem but I have been watching this thread just in case.  

Give us an update.



He got it off. No more problems.
12/8/2003 10:48:30 AM EDT
[#18]
Duke can I call you if I have any issues with my new Glock?
12/8/2003 10:54:42 AM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
Duke can I call you if I have any issues with my new Glock?



Well, maybe....what's the problem?
12/8/2003 11:13:42 AM EDT
[#20]
What cool group of people... pleaseing to see the consideration.
12/8/2003 11:23:01 AM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Duke can I call you if I have any issues with my new Glock?



Well, maybe....what's the problem?



No problem, I just thought it was cool that you helped him out like that.
12/9/2003 8:35:55 AM EDT
[#22]
Yes, Duke helped me.(Thanks again) It wasn't a gun problem, more of a "wtf wasn't i doing that to begin with" problem.  
12/9/2003 9:00:20 AM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:
Yes, Duke helped me.(Thanks again) It wasn't a gun problem, more of a "wtf wasn't i doing that to begin with" problem.  



Oh I've been there plenty of times!  It's nice to know that there are others willing to help.
12/9/2003 10:38:58 AM EDT
[#24]
>>Out of curiosity, what are NY1 and NY2 trigger springs?<<
NY-1 and -2 springs are replacement springs that are more durable than the standard spring and provide a more positive reset in exchange for a slightly heavier trigger pull.  Lots of combat shooters prefer them.
12/9/2003 5:46:58 PM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:
>>Out of curiosity, what are NY1 and NY2 trigger springs?<<
NY-1 and -2 springs are replacement springs that are more durable than the standard spring and provide a more positive reset in exchange for a slightly heavier trigger pull.  Lots of combat shooters prefer them.



Personally I think they suck. There's more of a chance to jerk the trigger before the overly heavy trigger breaks than there is a benefit to the arguably faster reset.