Posted: 4/29/2008 1:17:44 PM EDT
| I really wanna get a Glock, but am not sure about the trigger safety.. I have fired a Glock once, and it was okay, but does the trigger safety bother anyone? Any experienced owners, do you get used to it? |
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The Four Rules of Firearms Handling by Jeff Cooper Rule 1 ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED The only exception to this occurs when you have a firearm in your hands and you have personally unloaded it for checking. As soon as you put it down, Rule 1 applies again. Rule 2 NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY You may not wish to destroy it, but you must be clear in your mind that you are quite ready to if you let that muzzle cover the target. To allow a firearm to point at another human being is a deadly threat, and should always be treated as such. Rule 3 KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET This we call the Golden Rule because its violation is responsible for about 80 percent of the firearms disasters we read about. Rule 4 BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT You never shoot at anything until you have positively identified it. You never fire at a shadow, or a sound, or a suspected presence. You shoot only when you know absolutely what you are shooting at and what is beyond it.  if the firearm is not in your hand, then a dedicated, secure holster that covers the trigger guard is in order |
Yes, thanks. That's what I was asking. The pistols I've always shot have been 1911s, and the trigger feels orgasmic on them. |
ah, my bad; the 1st part of the OP's line seemed to infer some distrust in the system, and the last question is answered by rule #3...but to answer the 2nd/3rd parts completely: "no" and "yes" (through the obeyance of rule #3)
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I also love the triggers on 1911s. I think the trigger on the Glock comes second to the 1911, that’s just me. My favorite Glock to shoot is my G34. Shoot Glocks regularly enough and you’ll hardly notice the trigger safety disengaging during trigger press. |
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I'm going to be a voice of dissent here. Keeping your finger the f*ck out of the trigger is only part of the game. When running during bad stuff or competition you also have to keep other things out of the trigger guard like gear and foliage. There is NO manual safety or heavy DA trigger pull to act as an automatic mechanical safety. Also a good holster that full covers the trigger is essential. Again, care needs to be taken to keep clothing and other detritus out of the trigger guard or you will shoot yourself in the leg. Trigger discipline is important but I personally like a mechanical safety to cover the stuff I can't control. And the glock trigger is in no way, shape or form as good as a 1911. I don't like glocks and I hate the fact that some misguided people think they are safer than 1911s or USP type designs. You make whatever decision makes you happy! You have to live or die with it! |
Word. Also, on my G19, when I point it downward, that safety bar (middle part of the trigger that floats) has a tenancy to work itself in a position that hangs up on the rear part when I start to squeeze down. It just aint right. Anyone else have this problem? Either way, I like an external safety. I think the Glock is a fantastic pistol, but mine may end up being my wife or kids pistol, not mine. |
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Maybe I have been out of the loop for a while, but don't you mean a Browning Hi-Power? I have one and a glock. Both are great guns. The trigger reset on the glock is shorter when used correctly. I find it the most similar to the 1911. Even after a great trigger job, the reset on the browning is long compared to the 1911 and the glock. That said, my wife will only shoot the 1911 and the Browning. Get what you like. It took all of 2 range sessions to forget all about that trigger safety on the glock. |
Of course if you would have actually read the thread and understood what the OP was asking about, you'd have realized that your post has nothing to do with the topic and your dissent, voiced or otherwise, to be irrelevant and unneeded. |
The Glock trigger takes a little (emphasis on little) time to get used to, but once you use it a bit you won't know it's there. IMO the Glock trigger doesn't come close to the 1911, but it is not a bad trigger by any means. I like it better than most, especially with a lighter spring (G34, G35, G17L). As a friend of mine that works at a local range said: "Glock triggers require the use of all the fundamentals. If you can shoot a Glock well, you can shoot anything well." For once I had to agree with something said by someone at a range! |
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I was antsy about the Glock "safe action" system when I got my G17. So what I did was get some snap caps and did a lot of dry practice of holstering and unholserting. I even tried to get the striker to drop (with snap caps) by testing the pistol twirling it around my finger, grabbing the gun off a table with my eyes shut, etc. I could not make the trigger pull or striker drop by doing this. I would never do this with a loaded weapon but I was testing my self and the pistol. I had read that there have been AD's when re-holstering and getting a shirtail or something caught in the trigger guard. When I did this test I did get the striker to fall however I had to purposely put my shirt into the trigger guard. It seemed unlikely this would happen in practical circumstances. With this in I drill to clear my shirt from my holster completely before re-holstering and concentrate on this action in particular. The Glock design makes a natural home for your trigger finger on the frame so it's fairly easy to get used to. YMMV. Thurman |
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The main concern for a trigger only safety is if your holster has a strap to keep the gun secure it can get caught in the trigger guard when reholstering. I have XDs and like the idea of the grip safety so when reholstering you grip the gun alittle lower so if something did get caught in the trigger guard the trigger can't move.Plus now for people that don't like the trigger and grip only safety the XDs (currently only in .45) have a manual safety option which I know will increase sales for people with similar concerns like yours. Now if its about the trigger feel, well I can't help you with the Glock but my XD triggers are fine. However the trigger on the XD is metal with more of a curve. My friends Glock trigger shape does feel much different than my XD though. |
I'm pretty absolutely positive you're referring to the Hi POWER, not Hi POINT. I like the Hi Power quite a bit more than the 1911 or the Glock, but I do like all three. For me it's a better pointer. And it's sexier than either, too. You'll be totally cool, too, because everyone has a 1911 or Glock and Hi Powers aren't as common in the USA.  They do have the most comfortable, naturally pointing grip I've ever felt. Trigger is heavy, and has a long reset, but for me it's very conducive to accurate shooting. ETA: You won't notice the trigger safety on the Glock though. |