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9/17/2007 11:11:37 AM EDT
I have a Kimber .45 that i absolutely love but as we all know .45 gets expensive to shoot. So i want to pick a different pistol and caliber to practice with but i am not sure which way to go.

.22 would be the cheapest choice but 9mm is pretty attractive also. I am thinking along the lines of a baretta 9mm or a .22 target pistol. I want something that will be of decent quality and above average as far as accuracy but im not as familiar with pistols as rifles so i need a little help.

What do you guys think?
9/17/2007 11:21:23 AM EDT
[#1]
you could just get a 22lr top end for your kimber.
9/17/2007 11:26:14 AM EDT
[#2]
Already have one but it jams after every other shot, then its one of those nasty jams it takes like 20 mins and a pairs of needle nose to fix. I have two different magazines for it tried them both and the same thing happens, the kit is brand new so im not sure what the deal is.

9/17/2007 11:36:26 AM EDT
[#3]
Browning buckmark, I guess the ruger is okay also.
9/17/2007 11:51:10 AM EDT
[#4]
I have a Ruger 22/45 with 5inch stainless bull...I love it...

Haven't cleaned it since I bought it(about 3000 rounds), and I haven't had any issues...
9/17/2007 11:55:37 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
Browning buckmark, I guess the ruger is okay also.


Yeah one of my buddies has one he has been trying to sell me for like $550 i thought that was a little much, but it does shoot like a champ.
9/17/2007 12:28:18 PM EDT
[#6]
Even though the 22. will be alot cheaper to shoot If your considering it I would get there Beretta 9mm. Its a really good gun I think and a great accurate shooter. Lots of people have bad opinions about them but they normally are in the military or have been and shot the shitty ones they were issued that has been shot so much it has not rifling. Comparing a a ner 92fs to a new M9 isnt a comparison but thats were most beretta bad opinions come from. I have one and its one of my most accurate pistols plus If you get one you wont be limited with the small 22.cal and could defend yourself with it if you had to. If i didnt have my XD the beretta would be the first thing I grabbed out of my safe for any sitiation.
9/17/2007 12:50:49 PM EDT
[#7]
Frankly, even if you drop down to 9mm, it will still cost you a pretty big chunk of change to get any kind of range session in.

I'd suggest you put the money toward a progressive reloader and soon you will be as ignorant of the retail price of ammo as I am.
9/17/2007 1:21:45 PM EDT
[#8]

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Frankly, even if you drop down to 9mm, it will still cost you a pretty big chunk of change to get any kind of range session in.

I'd suggest you put the money toward a progressive reloader and soon you will be as ignorant of the retail price of ammo as I am.


+1

I was shooting my Colt so much, I bought a 550B just for .45ACP. You can reload at a fraction of the cost of retail. Of course, .22LR is going to always be the cheapest, but my .45 reloads are cheaper than going over to 9x19mm by a long shot.

Actually, I'm looking at getting a toolhead set up for 9x19mm, as now I'm shooting a ton of it through my P226. With ammo prices on the rise, reloading is really the only way to practice enough without breaking the bank.
9/17/2007 2:32:37 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
Browning buckmark, I guess the ruger is okay also.




Yep. I've owned a buckmark since about 2002 and it's been a pretty good pistol for me so far. The only times it's ever really given me a lot of trouble is whenever it became really dirty from long shooting sessions. It's reasonably accurate at typical handgun distances, too.
9/17/2007 2:58:09 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Browning buckmark, I guess the ruger is okay also.


Yeah one of my buddies has one he has been trying to sell me for like $550 i thought that was a little much, but it does shoot like a champ.


That sounds like a lot. I (well my g/f) has a bull barrelled Buckmark "camper" and I don't think it was anywhere near five bills.

Someone else was correct in suggesting considering a reloader. I think we are all either going to be reloading or shooting mostly .22lr over the next few years,
9/17/2007 7:56:05 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
I have a Ruger 22/45 with 5inch stainless bull...I love it...

Haven't cleaned it since I bought it(about 3000 rounds), and I haven't had any issues...


+1

Browning Buckmarks are good also
9/18/2007 7:46:52 AM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
Actually, I'm looking at getting a toolhead set up for 9x19mm, as now I'm shooting a ton of it through my P226. With ammo prices on the rise, reloading is really the only way to practice enough without breaking the bank.


Go for it.  I've been reloading 9mm for years, even when it was "cheap."  Right now I'm loading copper plated 9mm for about $8 per 100.
9/18/2007 8:31:55 AM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
Browning buckmark, I guess the ruger is okay also.


The Ruger is hard to beat. I had one and it never gave me any problems. I had thousands of rounds through it too.
9/18/2007 9:26:51 AM EDT
[#14]
my ruger 22/45 was only $250 :)
9/18/2007 11:33:59 AM EDT
[#15]

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Browning buckmark,


Yeah one of my buddies has one he has been trying to sell me for like $550 i thought that was a little much, but it does shoot like a champ.



You can buy Buckmarks in the lower to mid- $200s, brand new, all day long, FWIW.    
9/18/2007 12:55:01 PM EDT
[#16]
If you're on a budget this is a great .22lr pistol

Browning Buck Mark MS Camper 22 AS
Model: 051379490 $265.43
Free Shipping

www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/21_145/products_id/16940








I
9/18/2007 1:02:00 PM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
If you're on a budget this is a great .22lr pistol

Browning Buck Mark MS Camper 22 AS
Model: 051379490 $265.43
Free Shipping

www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/21_145/products_id/16940

www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/images/16940.jpg





Fixed it...............      
9/18/2007 2:28:01 PM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
If you're on a budget this is a great .22lr pistol

Browning Buck Mark MS Camper 22 AS
Model: 051379490 $265.43
Free Shipping

www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/21_145/products_id/16940

www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/images/16940.jpg

YEp that one looks good to me, i am definitely on a budget and reloading is out of the question right now, just dont have any room, have a few roomates and our garage is full.
Pool table, air hockey, ping pong, and unfortunately tvs that my roomates play halo on most of the time they are awake.....

im sure i could find one of those at the next eastmans gunshow that comes along...

How is the grip on those are they small or will it fit in my hand as good as my kimber?




I
9/18/2007 2:54:52 PM EDT
[#19]

How is the grip on those are they small or will it fit in my hand as good as my kimber?



You'll like it.  
9/19/2007 7:32:38 PM EDT
[#20]
look at a XD-9 or a Ruger P95
9/19/2007 10:05:35 PM EDT
[#21]
I'm going to say start reloading as well.  I need to get myself setup for reloading 4 different calibers (30-06, 223, 9mm and .45).  Expensive up front investment but will pay for itself in the long run.  And with 45 brass will last a fairly long time from what I've been told and you can shoot cast bullets driving your ammo prices REALLY low.  
9/20/2007 6:28:49 AM EDT
[#22]
Are you talking about general shooting practice or serious practice to help you become more proficiant with your Kimber? If the later, then I would just get a .22LR upper for your Kimber or a dedicated .22 1911 style pistol. I believe Kimber makes one so that would be a nice match.

For just generally shooting, then just about any .22LR will do, Ruger and Browning seem to be the most popular and out of the two, I prefer the Browning.

I wouldn't recomend a 9mm simply because as far as cost savings, 9mm ammo is stilll much more expensive then .22LR and with its almost non-existing recoil, the .22 makes it easy to focus on stuff like grip, trigger control, breathing, etc.. Unless you get a 1911 style 9mm, the 9mm won't be any better of a training tool then the .22LR will be
9/24/2007 4:43:08 AM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:
Are you talking about general shooting practice or serious practice to help you become more proficiant with your Kimber? If the later, then I would just get a .22LR upper for your Kimber or a dedicated .22 1911 style pistol. I believe Kimber makes one so that would be a nice match.

For just generally shooting, then just about any .22LR will do, Ruger and Browning seem to be the most popular and out of the two, I prefer the Browning.

I wouldn't recomend a 9mm simply because as far as cost savings, 9mm ammo is stilll much more expensive then .22LR and with its almost non-existing recoil, the .22 makes it easy to focus on stuff like grip, trigger control, breathing, etc.. Unless you get a 1911 style 9mm, the 9mm won't be any better of a training tool then the .22LR will be


Mostly general shooting practice, I just want to be able to practice with a pistol without going bankrupt in the process. I have no room or time for reloading or learning how to do it right now.

I am leaning towards the browning right now, i have never owned a browning but i think just about anything they make should be great quality..
9/24/2007 4:58:00 AM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:

Quoted:

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Browning buckmark, I guess the ruger is okay also.


Yeah one of my buddies has one he has been trying to sell me for like $550 i thought that was a little much, but it does shoot like a champ.


That sounds like a lot. I (well my g/f) has a bull barrelled Buckmark "camper" and I don't think it was anywhere near five bills.

Someone else was correct in suggesting considering a reloader. I think we are all either going to be reloading or shooting mostly .22lr over the next few years,


Buckmark is the way to go. $550 is high. I've got 5.5 target think I paid about $450 at a gun show.
9/25/2007 5:59:11 AM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

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Browning buckmark, I guess the ruger is okay also.


Yeah one of my buddies has one he has been trying to sell me for like $550 i thought that was a little much, but it does shoot like a champ.


That sounds like a lot. I (well my g/f) has a bull barrelled Buckmark "camper" and I don't think it was anywhere near five bills.

Someone else was correct in suggesting considering a reloader. I think we are all either going to be reloading or shooting mostly .22lr over the next few years,


Buckmark is the way to go. $550 is high. I've got 5.5 target think I paid about $450 at a gun show.



Thats what i told him i thought &550 was to much probably more than he paid for it, but he likes to haggle so i guess that was supposed to be a starting point unfortunately for him i hate haggling..

Yeah i was thinking a gunshow was they way i wanted to go to find one, you don't get hassled as much by the vendors and there is plenty of stuff laying around to check out and compare...

9/25/2007 12:02:15 PM EDT
[#26]
I love my Colt 22, it was inexpensive, reliable, and accurate.  Too bad its no longer in production.  Hopefully I never break anything on it.
9/29/2007 11:19:23 AM EDT
[#27]
A Ruger 22/45 or one of the other 22 target pistols they carry.Rugers have a solid reutation,good qualiy,affordable and numreous affordable accesories.Good luck with your choice.Happy shooting.
9/29/2007 7:12:06 PM EDT
[#28]
Ruger made the 22/45 with the same grip angle and ergonomics as the M1911 making it an excellent companion piece for those who have the hots for the M1911.
Personally I would prefer the buckmark.
10/1/2007 4:19:32 AM EDT
[#29]
Well I appreciate all of your replies, i got the .22 conversion kit for my Kimber running very well, after a little tinkering it seemed only loading 8 rounds into the magazine solved the problem, but after a while i loaded it to max 10 rounds and it still worked great.... im not sure what the deal was the first time i used it but it works beautifully now, and it seems to be very accurate  one more reason to love my Kimber...