Posted: 8/22/2010 5:38:08 AM EDT
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I have a new 75 - just a couple of weeks old.. I installed a comp hammer and while that helped the trigger is still in need of improvement. It has lots of gritty travel... But overall I'm liking the pistol. It has a couple of hundred rounds through it with no failures and is fairly accurate.
The guide rod, however, is less than inspiring.. My pistol does not have hole on the end of the dust cover/ slide. Can you drill or mill the hole in this slide and does anyone make a one piece stainless guide rod ?? Or should I just leave well enough alone.. I never seem to satisified with status quo .... |
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theres an old saying, if it aint broke dont f___ with it.
however, its your gun and you probably wont be happy until its the way you want it. if youre not happy with the trigger and have ADD for a smooth trigger, have the trigger worked on. afa the guide rod, again, if youre not happy have them do the work on it while the trigger is worked on. |
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I replaced my factory plastic guide rod with one from here, it's not full-length but I just wanted a steel one
http://guiderod.com/ |
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Quoted: I replaced my factory plastic guide rod with one from here, it's not full-length but I just wanted a steel one http://guiderod.com/ +1 for Steve. I ordered a stainless steel guide rod for my CZ-97B from him. It's a beautiful piece. He even included a hand written note, thanking me for the purchase. Who does that in this day and age? |
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I replaced my factory plastic guide rod with one from here, it's not full-length but I just wanted a steel one http://guiderod.com/ +1 for Steve. I ordered a stainless steel guide rod for my CZ-97B from him. It's a beautiful piece. He even included a hand written note, thanking me for the purchase. Who does that in this day and age? Just curious, if you don't mind me asking, how much did you pay for it? |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I replaced my factory plastic guide rod with one from here, it's not full-length but I just wanted a steel one http://guiderod.com/ +1 for Steve. I ordered a stainless steel guide rod for my CZ-97B from him. It's a beautiful piece. He even included a hand written note, thanking me for the purchase. Who does that in this day and age? Just curious, if you don't mind me asking, how much did you pay for it? Prices are on his site. All of the CZ guide rods are $25. Plastic guide rods, while completely functional, are a cost cutting measure...and look like shit. The $25 for the Bedair guide rod was worth it, to me. |
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Kind of my take on the rods, they just look like hell... Besides my intent was to depart from plastic pistols..
I sure like to try an improve things –––– in my eye.. Make them suit my whims rather than learn to live with issues that I find less than pleasing.. Don't believe I have one piece of equipment or firearm that hasn't been altered to fit me in some way or another, too damn old to change now, lol.. |
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There is probably no difference in functioning with the plastic unit, and the gun is still a CZ ........ But a Porche is still a Porche and will do 140mph with recaps on it, too.
Pride of ownership is diminished when a manufacturer substitutes a material that many owners consider to be inferior to the product formerly used, and that's where most of us are coming from in our dislike of the plastic guide rod. Also, makers of steel pistols are folding up and quitting faster than any of us like, so when we still have one distinguished manufacturer who makes high quality guns of steel, it's a bit ominious when we find plastic parts in them, especially since our favorite gunmaker is now making some plastimatic guns as well. We can only question how long the steel guns will last once they start putting plastic parts in them. We also wonder what it means to the maker's financial viability once he starts resorting to plastic. So the plastic guide rod takes the brunt of our dissatisfaction. MM |
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Plastic guide rods, while completely functional, are a cost cutting measure...and look like shit. They are shit. More drivel from the 1911 crowd. What is shitty about a part that works without fail over the life of the piece? Spend your money on things that will make a real difference, like a trigger job, or better sights. P.T. Barnum was right I guess. |
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Plastic guide rods, while completely functional, are a cost cutting measure...and look like shit. They are shit. More drivel from the 1911 clueless crowd. What is shitty about a part that works without fail over the life of the piece? Spend your money on things that will make a real difference, like a trigger job, or better sights. P.T. Barnum was right I guess. FTFY. I have yet to see anyone that bitches about the materials or manufacturing methods of firearms parts actually provide a coherent argument for their position based on fact and engineering principles. |
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I still have plastic Beretta guide rod taking up space in my parts box. Out of curiosity, I'll put propane torch to it and see what happens to this superior part. Good idea. I do frequently have propane torches applied to the inside of my CZs. And no one said it was a superior part. |
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Quoted: Quoted: More drivel from the 1911 crowd.Quoted: They are shit.Plastic guide rods, while completely functional, are a cost cutting measure...and look like shit. What is shitty about a part that works without fail over the life of the piece? Spend your money on things that will make a real difference, like a trigger job, or better sights. P.T. Barnum was right I guess. For the record, (again), I never said the plastic rod didn't work well...it did. For me, it's an aesthetic thing, nothing more. I also have CZ Custom sights on my 97B.  |
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I applied propane heat to plastic rod and a piece of low temp solder held side-by-side with channel locks.
From considerable distance from the flame, guide rod started to bubble while solder did not melt. As expected, contact with the flame set the rod on fire (of course the solder melted). This was not an experiment, everyone knew what would happen. It was a positive and foolproof method of ridding POS gun part. |
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I applied propane heat to plastic rod and a piece of low temp solder held side-by-side with channel locks. From considerable distance from the flame, guide rod started to bubble while solder did not melt. As expected, contact with the flame set the rod on fire (of course the solder melted). This was not an experiment, everyone knew what would happen. It was a positive and foolproof method of ridding POS gun part. So what is that supposed to prove? |
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So what is that supposed to prove? That some people have more propane than common sense I guess. 
Oh no! You got it wrong. It proves that manufacturers assume that handgun enthusiasts have more propane than common sense, and will embrace inferior plastic gun parts. |
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So what is that supposed to prove? That some people have more propane than common sense I guess.
Oh no! You got it wrong. It proves that manufacturers assume that handgun enthusiasts have more propane than common sense, and will embrace inferior plastic gun parts. They would be correct in this case. |
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People piss and moan about how this or that gun has gone up in price.
Add night sights, a stainless steel guide rod, cocobolo checkered grips, or whatever other accessory renders a gun "not shit", a gun's price can go up $150. "Those pistols are nice, but they're so HIGH". I haven't seen many broken guide rods of any material, If CZ finds them adequate, I don't mind saving the money, especially if there are enough other sales to make the company profitable. There's a reason Dakota went bust. |