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8/24/2008 5:45:05 PM EDT
Okay, quick backround. I've shot rifles/shotguns since I was 12, but have never shot any handgun. I have a Ruger Mark II and a Ruger Speed-Six .38spl waiting for me to get my license(guns in MS I'm in NY), will these two steps be good enough to get used to handguns and a jump up to a 1911. Which is what I really want to buy anyway.

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8/24/2008 6:35:08 PM EDT
[#1]
It should be.   I have shot target WC, standard pressure, +p, and +p+ in my Speed 6 revolvers to demonstrate increasing recoil.   However, recoil in a revolver is different somewhat from a semi auto.   I don't think one would have a problem with proper instruction.
8/24/2008 6:38:43 PM EDT
[#2]
I can't think of 2 better firearms. A .22 for lots of cheap practice with a semi-auto and a revolver to let you learn to make each shot count.
8/24/2008 7:16:02 PM EDT
[#3]
About the only thing I can think of that would be better is a S&W M19/M17 combo or M19/M18 combo. These three guns are identical except for the cartridge. The M19 is a .357 and the M17/M18 are .22 long rifle.

What you have will last almost indefinitely with proper care.
8/24/2008 9:28:56 PM EDT
[#4]
both are great HGs and will serve you well...what kinda 1911 are you looking to?

8/24/2008 10:26:29 PM EDT
[#5]
YOu could probably go with the 1911 from the get go.  youre probably thinking its "going to kick like a mule" from hearing your grandpas war stories.

It does kick, but if you ever been kicked by a mule, you will know the dif.  Most guns will have some recoil, it all depends on what you do.  

Remember its not how you resist it, its how you go with the flow.

8/25/2008 12:33:50 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
You could probably go with the 1911 from the get go.  you're probably thinking its "going to kick like a mule" from hearing your grandpas war stories.

It does kick, but if you ever been kicked by a mule, you will know the dif.  Most guns will have some recoil, it all depends on what you do.  

Remember its not how you resist it, its how you go with the flow.



My first handgun was an old "Property Of US Army" 1911. I had read all about it having loads of recoil. The first time I shot it I said WTF are they talking about?!?

I had previously fired a .357 service revolver, it had stung my hand pretty good, I gave it back to its owner saying "you shoot it"!

I think I was set up with a hot load in a relatively light gun!

In contrast the 45acp was nice and smooth, I couldn't believe all the BS I'd heard about it being a cannon with stout recoil!

Several times over the years I had young kids shoot it, not one of them ever objected to its recoil, I'm talking 11yr olds here.

A hot +P+ load in a compact/lightweight 1911 will obviously recoil in a more vigorous fashion.


The two Rugers you have are both great guns, the Speed Six especially.

You're off to a good start.
8/25/2008 1:43:45 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
YOu could probably go with the 1911 from the get go.  youre probably thinking its "going to kick like a mule" from hearing your grandpas war stories.

It does kick, but if you ever been kicked by a mule, you will know the dif.  Most guns will have some recoil, it all depends on what you do.  

Remember its not how you resist it, its how you go with the flow.



You know he probably could but these will be his first handguns so its not bad especially if he gets them for a good price. The 22lr round has always been a good first handgun round. This way he can save up for a really nice 1911 while shooting nice cheap 22lr and getting practice in with handguns. He can also appreciate a revolver as well. I notice fellow gun owners I know that have never shot a revolver have told me they would never even consider one. This is from shooting semi-autos and nothing else.
8/25/2008 1:46:45 PM EDT
[#8]
I really like the looks and reviews on the Taurus PT-1911, although I had considered getting the Colt Govt 45. The only problem is in my mind it's hard to justify $300 more for less features.

Colt
Taurus
8/25/2008 3:21:24 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
I really like the looks and reviews on the Taurus PT-1911, although I had considered getting the Colt Govt 45. The only problem is in my mind it's hard to justify $300 more for less features.

Colt
Taurus


That'a bit high, even for a S70 reissue. Colt NRM '1991s' can be had for significantly less than that at retail, let alone online - and that would be the way to go, IMO.

If you plan on having work done to it down the line, definitely get the Colt (or another reputable manufacturer, like SA, etc). The PTs seem to run fine out of the box, but I have seen bad things happen once people decide they want to start doing a little work. Also, many good 1911 smiths will only work on the accepted 'standard' brands in order to ensure a quality finished product by first ensuring a quality (and consistent, in-spec) base product.
8/25/2008 5:38:05 PM EDT
[#10]
From what I've read so-far is that with the PT-1911 they have more fitting done from the factory than most 1911's so when you buy an off the shelf barrel for example it takes some more fitting to work correctly than a looser 1911 make. With being my (possible) first 1911 I'll probably shoot it like it is for quite a while.