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3/25/2007 9:55:04 AM EDT
I just came back from the range a few minutes ago and fired for the second time my Auto Ordanace 1911A1 Deluxe and it kept stove piping. Not to mention the front sights came off and God knows where they went. Anybody have any ideas on the problems I just mentioned. It is a brand new gun and the ammo seemed to be ok. Is Auto Ordanace a bad brand or is it just a coinidence? And if it is a bad brand what should I do? Have it worked on or sell it and save up for a Colt or a Springfield? And if I should buy another are Colt 1991's still made and how good of quality are they? Because I like the looks of the 1991's since they resemble my Auto Ordanance Deluxe with the blue finish and black grips. So what do you all think? Any info would be much appriciated. Needless  to say I am not happy about this at all. I might get a job with AT Systems (Armored Truck) and I was gonna qualify with that so I could carry a 45 Caliber on down. If I don't figure something out it looks like I will have to qualify with my 40 Caliber Beretta Model 96. And I am not about to carry a gun that could jam on me in a gun fight if someone attacks me when I am carrying money bags.

"If you can't handle this like a normal assignment 007... Then 008 will replace you." 008
3/25/2007 12:25:49 PM EDT
[#1]
Any gun that has parts falling off, I would return. Get a credit and spend a little more for a quality 45. In the meantime, stay with the berreta........
3/25/2007 2:38:10 PM EDT
[#2]
Auto Ordnance is known for hit or miss quality. Sorry to hear yours was a miss.

I would send it back, get a credit & buy a Springfield, IMO.

My .o2  
3/25/2007 3:20:23 PM EDT
[#3]
AO.

Send it back to AO to have them fix it, or if possible get a refund. I'd PERSONALLY sell it after my fiasco with them. The 1991 is a much higher quality pistol IMHO.

That is the biggest problem with the 1911 design, everyone and their brother makes them and some "brothers"  just can't make them worth a darn.
3/25/2007 3:36:59 PM EDT
[#4]
Sorry to say AO is junk.
3/25/2007 10:35:43 PM EDT
[#5]
Okay, I am back from work...I was gonna reply to this earlier today but didn't have the time.

There is a bit of hope for you...let's start from the top.

You'll need someone to either sweat a new sight on for you or better yet have a dovetail front fitted to the gun.  Keep it a low one as AO has a pretty short front sight.

Next, get a Wolff 18.5 pound recoil spring just for General Purposes.

Now, as far as stove pipes go there's a few places to start.

First, take the slide off and see if the ejector is tight on the frame.  It should be snug with no wobble.  If it wobbles order a new one ( and the proper pin punch if you need it ) that is slightly extended.  You could order an extra long one but then you have to take a bit of time to file it down so you get acceptable but not crazy ejection.

If the ejector is tight, it still may be a bit short but let's try another trick first.  With the slide OFF of the gun, insert ( slide ) an empty case under the ejector.  It should slide in with just a bit of resistance.  If it goes in really tight, you need to remove the ejector and take a bit of the bend out of it.  Just a little.

Conversely, if the cartridge slides in with no effort, try bending the ejector ( again, slightly ) toward the middle of the slide and make the cartridge slide in with just a bit of effort.

You may have to shoot and try to get it perfect.

Let's see how this goes for now.

Good luck.
3/26/2007 10:43:45 AM EDT
[#6]
I just came back from the gunstore I bought it from today and they said they will send it back. Afterward they are going to buy it from me and sell it. They tride to talk me out of getting another mil spec 1911A1 because I am going to be an armored car driver and I want a 1911 to carry once in a while but I still would like to carry a classic A1 style with the short beavertail and the spur hammer and all that. Me I haven't had the hammer pinch anyway. And he tried to tell me that if you get another Mil Spec A1 that they all stove pipe regardless of the make. But my Dad was in the Marines in the early 60's and he said his Colt 1911 never did it once at the range. I would still like to stick with a classic Mil Spec A1 rather then going with the newer style ones like the Kimber's for example. I know they are better since they took the flaws out but can't a A1 Mil Spec still be good for self defense? I really want a A1 like I had. Since I would be more authusiastic about it because I love the looks of them more than any other pistol out there. What do you all think? If they really do jam all the time then maybe I will get myself a updated Kimber style one with the combat hammer and all the frills on it. Please let me know what you think?

"If you can't handle this like a normal assignment 007... Then 008 will replace you." 008
3/26/2007 11:46:35 PM EDT
[#7]
Get a Colt 1911A1 New Roll Mark.  Anything you have to do will be VERY minimal.  It is worth the extra bread.
3/27/2007 1:35:12 AM EDT
[#8]
Have you checked with the employer to see if they have any limits on what you can use?
3/27/2007 2:45:55 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
Have you checked with the employer to see if they have any limits on what you can use?


Yes and the guy doing the hiring seemed to think that I can carry a 1911. And fortunitly I have other pistols just in case. I got a Beretta Model 96, a Ruger P94 9mm and a Sig Sauer P226 40S&W. I really want to qualify with a 45ACP Caliber but if I can't get a Colt or Springfield 1911 before then I will just use my 40S&W Caliber Beretta Model 96. That is what I used at the police academy firing range before I failed the academy on the last day of class which I don't want to get started on.

"If you can't handle this like a normal assignment 007... Then 008 will replace you." 008
3/27/2007 3:02:56 PM EDT
[#10]
A quality "mil spec" will run as flawlessly as anything else. The reason for stove pipes, is cheaply made/assembled mass produced and poor q/c...considering the reason you are wanting a 1911, do some research, and get what is right for you. even if used. they`re out there.
3/27/2007 5:11:48 PM EDT
[#11]
Not probably the answer you want to hear, but I would stick to what you've already trained on (M96).

Especially if you already have a belt, holster, mag pouches, etc. for it.
3/28/2007 6:33:34 AM EDT
[#12]
My SAI G.I. .45 is one of the finest-running pistols I've ever owned.
3/28/2007 3:23:40 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
Not probably the answer you want to hear, but I would stick to what you've already trained on (M96).

Especially if you already have a belt, holster, mag pouches, etc. for it.


I have a Uncle Mikes Dual Retention holster for all my pistols and I am gonna be getting a magazine pouch that holds 4 magazines. But it looks like at this rate I will have to wait anyway and use my Beretta this time because I probly won't be able to get a new 1911 preferably a Colt 1991A1 Mil Spec until several weeks once I get my old 1911 back and sell it to the gunstore to get another 1911. And if that turns out to be the case I will just use it for requalification next year. Use the Beretta this time if that happens.

"If you can't handle this like a normal assignment 007... Then 008 will replace you." 008