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6/2/2006 7:00:22 AM EDT
I searched the forums and I found this picture:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=93&t=350080

The example I’ve seen looks very similar with the exception of the top heat shield.  The firearm in question has a finished wood shield that appears to be factory made and matches the lower stock exactly.  This pistol was an inherited item so therefore doesn’t have any paperwork.  I’ve already done the Google search, but I wasn’t able to find anything like a serial number list, to confirm that this is a factory-made firearm and not a “do-it-yourself”’ project.   If it is in fact an Enforcer, then it can be registered as a pistol, correct?

Thanks in advance!
6/2/2006 7:16:40 AM EDT
[#1]
The enforcers were factory produced m1 carbines manufactured in pistol size. I remember reading about them in the early to mid 80s.
6/2/2006 7:30:31 AM EDT
[#2]
I just want to make sure that what I'm looking at is an Enforcer and not some illegal chop-job.  There isn't any marking that I've seen on it that identify it as an Iver Johnson.  If there were paperwork showing the details, it'd be a moot point.
6/2/2006 7:32:25 AM EDT
[#3]
Sorry, misunderstood you. I have not seen one in years
6/2/2006 7:34:50 AM EDT
[#4]
NP, I'm in the same boat.  If it's good, it's great; if ain't it's awful
6/2/2006 12:52:59 PM EDT
[#5]
If it is some sort of chop job, just apply for an SBR and send the ATF their $200. Problem solved.
6/2/2006 1:08:16 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
If it is some sort of chop job, just apply for an SBR and send the ATF their $200. Problem solved.



And one determines if it is or isn't a chop-job how...?
6/2/2006 7:42:18 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:

Quoted:
If it is some sort of chop job, just apply for an SBR and send the ATF their $200. Problem solved.



And one determines if it is or isn't a chop-job how...?




Check your state firearms association & see if they can recommend a lawyer who does a good bit of gun law work.

I don't think *I* would waltz down to the nearest office & plunk it down on the first desk I came to & asked them to rate it................  
6/2/2006 8:34:35 PM EDT
[#8]
the enforcer came out in the late 70's from universal..
M1 carbine pistol more or less..
dont think they have been outlawed anywhere except maybe Kali, NY or NJ?
6/4/2006 10:22:55 AM EDT
[#9]
I remember my father's old one had a metal heat shield.

The bolt release (lock?) is different than an M1 carbine's too, if I remember right.
6/12/2006 8:16:25 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
I just want to make sure that what I'm looking at is an Enforcer and not some illegal chop-job.  There isn't any marking that I've seen on it that identify it as an Iver Johnson.  If there were paperwork showing the details, it'd be a moot point.



How is it marked?
Does it take GI parts? (The Iver-Johnsons and Plainfield did, but most Universals do not)

The Universals I've seen were marked "Enforcer", but I've seen them marked differently.  I had an Iver-Johnson that was  not marked Enforcer, but was marked PP30 wich was the designation for that particular model of Enforcer.   With those pistols it's hard to tell sometimes.  Find some old gun buyer guides for the 70's, they sometimes can give you some clues as to the model you have and the way it should be marked.

The makers are:
Universal
Plainfield
Iver-Johnson
AMAC

and they are all marked differently.


Quoted:
... If it is in fact an Enforcer, then it can be registered as a pistol, correct?...



Depends on your state laws.

Take care,

Tony
6/14/2006 10:02:52 AM EDT
[#11]
Iver Johnson made one too.