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7/8/2007 3:31:25 PM EDT
Hello , I just got my first Hi power used of course .
So far I have been able to date the frame to 83 and the barrel to 92 by the numbers .

The whole gun is parked and it has the straight hammer .
The mag release is non serrated .

The pistol butt is marked
HP-35
NHM CO SACCO
There is a P on the left side of the trigger guard .
On the right side of the trigger guard is a star with a P under it and than another mark that I can not make out all the way but it looks like something in a circle with a crown on it .
The slide is marked "Browning Arms Company Morgan, Utah and Montreal P.O." on the left side and"Made in Belgium Assembled In Portugal"on the right .


I have wanted one of these since I was a little kid and now I have one . The price was $450 out the door . I don't care if it was high or not . I could afford it . It came with a 10 round factory mag and a 13 round Mecgar .


Any history or info on the history of the pistol you could give me would be kindly appreciated


Oh and the pic .

7/9/2007 10:37:48 AM EDT
[#1]
Can you show a closeup of each side of the HP?

I think you may have one that's been reworked.
7/9/2007 12:38:26 PM EDT
[#2]

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Can you show a closeup of each side of the HP?

I think you may have one that's been reworked.
I will try to get better pics up tonight when I get home .

I am sure it has been reworked though . At the least the barrel has been swapped .
7/13/2007 12:29:14 AM EDT
[#3]
OK Here is pics . Sorry it took so long . Been working a lot more than I want to as of late .



7/13/2007 6:44:03 PM EDT
[#4]
Could the "...SACCO..." on the butt be "SAC CA" ?

There have been other firearms imported by a NHM Co. out of Sacramento, California.

What are the first four or five serial numbers on the frame? And where are they located? (in front of grip frame?)

FN has no rhyme or reason on serial numbers. They will slap any series of numbers on a pistol to make the sale. Most of the Browning imported HP's follow a system (look under "services" on the Browning website), but if you are the Republic of Congosylvania they will happily provide you with any range of serial numbers you want.

Over the years there have been new HP's imported by companies other than Browning. I believe almost all of the long slide "competition" models were imported by Cassi of Colorado Springs.

I believe since 1968 the BATFE has required the name of the importer to be stamped on the frame. That NHM SACCO is more than likely the importer. If that is so the serial number database on the Browning website may not be accurate for your HP.

could you take a photo from a little further back so I could see what f&r sights are on it?

Thanks!
7/14/2007 6:26:12 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
Could the "...SACCO..." on the butt be "SAC CA" ?
That was my first thought also , but it is definetly an O on the end . I will try to get a good pic of it , but every one I take the camera is focusing on the background instead of the butt of the weapon .
There have been other firearms imported by a NHM Co. out of Sacramento, California.

What are the first four or five serial numbers on the frame? And where are they located? (in front of grip frame?)
They are on the grip frame in front as you said . I don't have it in front of me right now . I did discover today that the slide pic and the extracter pin are not the proper ones . The pics I see show them to be roll pins , but these are solid and the extractor retaining pin is just a touch under sized as I discovered today when it worked out under recoil . I will post the digits later tonight when I get back from taking the kids to see a movie .
FN has no rhyme or reason on serial numbers. They will slap any series of numbers on a pistol to make the sale. Most of the Browning imported HP's follow a system (look under "services" on the Browning website), but if you are the Republic of Congosylvania they will happily provide you with any range of serial numbers you want.

Over the years there have been new HP's imported by companies other than Browning. I believe almost all of the long slide "competition" models were imported by Cassi of Colorado Springs.

I believe since 1968 the BATFE has required the name of the importer to be stamped on the frame. That NHM SACCO is more than likely the importer. If that is so the serial number database on the Browning website may not be accurate for your HP.

could you take a photo from a little further back so I could see what f&r sights are on it?

Thanks!

I will get a better slide picture up for you tonight also , but dollors to donughts says they are not factory .


PS Thank you for all your help . :)
7/16/2007 11:48:29 AM EDT
[#6]
Sorry about the pics sucking , but these are the sites .
It looks like my cam just crapped out on me .




7/16/2007 2:22:55 PM EDT
[#7]
Looks like you got a pretty good deal!

How is the slide to frame play?  Has the magazine safety been removed?  It would appear so as there are some markings in that area.  

Is the front sight dove tailed?

The only thing I would change would be to add a factory extended safety.  I have the normal sized safety on one of my Hi Powers and I hate it.    
7/16/2007 7:56:29 PM EDT
[#8]
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The only thing I would change would be to add a factory extended safety.  I have the normal sized safety on one of my Hi Powers and I hate it.    


I've got a few of the factory ambidextrious safeties (new). I'll be out of town until Friday- if you interested in a set let me know.

I only have them in matte finish $52.00 includes shipping.
7/17/2007 12:23:40 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
Looks like you got a pretty good deal!
I like to think so .
How is the slide to frame play?

Solid . More Solid than my 1911 that is for sure .
Has the magazine safety been removed?
No it is still there , but I noticed that that pin has been replaced . From all the pics I see that should be a roll pin , but this one is solid and it does not go all the way through .I think the previous owner removed it and than re installed it when it came time to sell it .  
 It would appear so as there are some markings in that area.  
Explained above
Is the front sight dove tailed?
Yes it is . It also has a roll pin holding it into the slide . It looks like the sights should be a breeze to swap out which has me thinking of a project .

The only thing I would change would be to add a factory extended safety.  I have the normal sized safety on one of my Hi Powers and I hate it.    


Actually I think seeing as it has been monkeyed with and it has some markings in the finish anyway I don't think I would destroy any collector value by re doing some things .

I am thinking do it in Hi Gloss Duracoat and than swap out the hammer ,trigger and safety for the C&S in Hard Chrome . Slap on some night sights and it should look as sweet as it shoots when all is said and done .
I am just torn on Nice wood grips or these buffalo horn ones I found .Course I could always sweet talk a buddy into doing up a set of Walrus Ivory for me also .

7/30/2007 10:24:59 AM EDT
[#10]
OK .

Does any one know what size the roll pin in the slide to hold the extractor is supossed to be or the size of the roll pin in the side of the slide .
After looking at it these are hand made pins and one is the wrong size for sure the other looks like crap .