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7/18/2012 11:27:10 AM EDT
Hello,

I am looking at buying a PPS at my local gun shop.  I don't really know a ton about them.  I have been doing my research, but wanted your opinions on what, if anything, I should look for when looking over the gun.  It is used I'm not sure on the year of manufacture or what exactly comes with the gun yet because I only took a quick look at it.  They had a price of $499 on the gun.  Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks
7/18/2012 11:51:06 AM EDT
[#1]
You can tell roughly how much it has been shot by removing the slide (just like a GLOCK) and looking for the brass smear all along the feed rail. Most PPSs do this. The amount of brass and/or finish left will tell you a lot. Most people don't clean this since it's a pain. As it wears away after some use, the brass will disappear and bare steel will show up and at that point it will probably have stopped rubbing the cases. If there is some bare steel there, the price is high.





Beyond that. They're all the same. They haven't changed it since release. For that price, get both the 7 and 8 round mags that came with it.



 
 
7/19/2012 3:39:28 AM EDT
[#2]
Here is how to decipher the codes on the pistol...



From left to right on the slide:

DE = Country of origin, in this case Duetschland (Germany).

Next is the Federal German Proof Mark

BB = Date of manufacture, in this case 2011.

The antler is the mark of the Ulm Proof House.

AF XXXX is the weapon serial number where AF is the month of manufacture, in this case 05, or May.

The German letter date codes are:

A=0
B=1
C=2
D=3
E=4
F=5
G=6
H=7
I=8
J=9

Try to get a BB or later code if possible as they have an updated slide release/stop lever.
7/19/2012 11:10:47 AM EDT
[#3]
Thanks for the information!  I appreciate it.  I read something about a bad slide stop on certain ones.  What should I look for when I look at that?
7/19/2012 1:43:20 PM EDT
[#4]
Check the replaceable backstraps!!!!!!!!!!!!   Make sure they both work...I would suggest having the gun shop read instructions and swapping the backstraps.   Once on wiggle them and make sure they don't pop off.   If they do new ones can be had by Walther but takes time.

  Also it is possible to pin the frame...I do have a write up on how to.    Limbsavers are well liked to fend off this problem, as many will tell you.


Make sure it's a w000001 and not the MA heavy trigger. ( not sure the w#)







IIRC BB and up years have all the up grades.

 Check out the www.waltherForums.com for all the info your looking for.

 
7/31/2012 1:33:34 PM EDT
[#5]
Backstraps have never been a problem for me as A)you pick the one you want and leave it alone and B) you don't need to take it off to break it down...

Also, BB will have the new slide stop and some BA models.


I have loved my PPS and shot over 2k through it in less than 8 months.  Not the most, but I am certainly not trying to "test" the gun.  It just works.  I love it.
8/1/2012 7:51:25 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
Here is how to decipher the codes on the pistol...

http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/2756/ppsserials.jpg

From left to right on the slide:

DE = Country of origin, in this case Duetschland (Germany).

Next is the Federal German Proof Mark

BB = Date of manufacture, in this case 2011.

The antler is the mark of the Ulm Proof House.

AF XXXX is the weapon serial number where AF is the month of manufacture, in this case 05, or May.

The German letter date codes are:

A=0
B=1
C=2
D=3
E=4
F=5
G=6
H=7
I=8
J=9

Try to get a BB or later code if possible as they have an updated slide release/stop lever.

AF IS NOT the month of manufacture, it is nothing more than the serial prefix.  As in AF1234, once they reach AF9999 then guess what?  The next serial number will be AG0001 and so on.  
8/1/2012 8:40:39 AM EDT
[#7]
Thanks for that.

Can I ask how you came by this info?

It's pretty much an internet meme that the two letter prefix on the sereral number is the month of manufacture.

And no, I don't mind being corrected, it's how we learn after all, just curious.