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2/21/2010 12:24:57 AM EDT
Why is this handgun so inexpensive? Is this gun bad? If anyone here owns one, can you tell me if it's any good?
Thank you for your time.
2/21/2010 1:12:25 AM EDT
[#1]
There are lots of differing opinions on the Hi-Point. Some people say they are crap and are jam-o-matics; others say they are a good deal for the money. You pays your money, you takes your chances.

ETA Read THIS THREAD for a variety of responses.

My opinion based on what I've read here: Butt-ugly gun, but it shoots every time.
2/21/2010 5:08:23 AM EDT
[#2]
It's one of the ugliest pistols I've ever seen but from the ones I know, they all functioned fine.
2/21/2010 5:20:26 AM EDT
[#3]
So ugly its designer needs to be slapped, heavy and uncomfortable to handle, not fun to shoot.
But, the two I've messed with at the range have been revolver reliable.  I was able to get double-tap headshots on target with both.

Would I buy / carry one?  Not if I could afford something better, but for the price range, it's probably the best of the many bad options.
2/21/2010 5:50:06 AM EDT
[#4]
The slides are made out of shit metal.

Literally shit.  As in if your slide breaks in half and you are like WTF this is pot metal...Dont say you were not warned.
2/21/2010 6:33:53 AM EDT
[#5]
I have a friend that owns one.  He brought it to the range once and we were unable to get a magazine through it without a failure to feed.  Not one. This was with a couple of different kinds of quality factory ball ammo. YMMV.
2/21/2010 6:36:31 AM EDT
[#6]
we bought the .380 about ten years ago for around $160 new with 4 mags. I loan it out to people to go to the range with us and it has operated flawlessly. I dont know for sure but it has at least 2 or 3 thousand rounds threw it without one hiccup, not a bad $160 in my book! But with that said I would still grab the ol 1911 if my life was on the line!
2/21/2010 7:58:46 AM EDT
[#7]
In  terms of value, they are a good deal.

Are they the best gun out there? Nope.

But for that price point, they are a nice piece of gear. Service from Hi Point is VERY good.
2/21/2010 8:53:35 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Why is this handgun so inexpensive? Is this gun bad? If anyone here owns one, can you tell me if it's any good?
Thank you for your time.


It's a fairly simple blowback design that uses cheap materials.

I've got the carbine, and used to have the 45 ACP handgun.  For plinkers, they're fine, and the 45 pistol was extraordinarily reliable out of the box.  They're heavy though, mediocre ergonomics, and the blowback design causes heavier recoil.

ETA: they have a no BS warranty on them that's really no BS.  If it ain't working, send it back and it'll get fixed, no questions asked.
2/21/2010 2:30:27 PM EDT
[#9]



Quoted:


Why is this handgun so inexpensive? Is this gun bad? If anyone here owns one, can you tell me if it's any good?

Thank you for your time.


Because they're cheaply manufactured.  Straight-blowback (no locking mechanism, no tilting barrel, etc.etc.), only having single-stack mags (cheaper and easier to make, I'm guessing.), things like that.



Just a simpler design, simpler-made.



 
2/21/2010 2:48:36 PM EDT
[#10]
i bought 3 for $400. have 1 in each vehicle ran 100 plus rounds through each, only problem was i mag would not feed with reliable results in any of the 3 pistols so the take away is the feed lips on the mags suck . called bee miller and they sent me 2 new mags both of which function fine . no fancy ammo either mighy not feed , i am ok with ball, i know !
2/21/2010 8:39:02 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
I have a friend that owns one.  He brought it to the range once and we were unable to get a magazine through it without a failure to feed.  Not one. This was with a couple of different kinds of quality factory ball ammo. YMMV.


Send it back, they will fix it and give your freind a couple of spare mags.
Best CS out there.

2/22/2010 12:34:36 AM EDT
[#12]



Quoted:


i bought 3 for $400. have 1 in each vehicle ran 100 plus rounds through each, only problem was i mag would not feed with reliable results in any of the 3 pistols so the take away is the feed lips on the mags suck . called bee miller and they sent me 2 new mags both of which function fine . no fancy ammo either mighy not feed , i am ok with ball, i know !


Not sure if...................English.........................



 
2/25/2010 9:34:03 AM EDT
[#13]
People who say the critical parts are made of pot metal are simply talking out of their asses. All strength-critical components of the gun are made of good heat-treated steel in America.

The pistols are inexpensive because they use a minimalist engineering design (they're straight blowback, with single-stack magazines.) and they sacrifice light weight for manufacturing ease. Hence, non-critical parts are preferentially made of cast zamak-3 (a zinc alloy.) and they don't spend any machine time making stuff lighter. They get a lot of crap here but if you ask people who own them, you'll find a lot of happy, satisfied customers.
2/25/2010 9:44:41 AM EDT
[#14]
Junk
2/25/2010 9:50:06 AM EDT
[#15]





Read This Thread
2/25/2010 10:05:21 AM EDT
[#16]


100% junk.  Period.

The carbines are junk as well.



2/25/2010 11:13:54 AM EDT
[#17]
My buddy had a Hi Point 9mm or .380 (can't recall which anymore) and he let me shoot the thing.  Not bad if you want a single shot semi auto.  On the plus side it carries more spare bullets on board then most other single shots do.  My opinion was that it was a big steaming pile of shit.  But what do I know?  Better to trust my life with something a little more expensive that will go bang more then once.
2/25/2010 12:18:36 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
People who say the critical parts are made of pot metal are simply talking out of their asses. All strength-critical components of the gun are made of good heat-treated steel in America.

The pistols are inexpensive because they use a minimalist engineering design (they're straight blowback, with single-stack magazines.) and they sacrifice light weight for manufacturing ease. Hence, non-critical parts are preferentially made of cast zamak-3 (a zinc alloy.) and they don't spend any machine time making stuff lighter. They get a lot of crap here but if you ask people who own them, you'll find a lot of happy, satisfied customers.


This kid worships his lame .40 Short & Weak carbine like it is a work of art.  
2/25/2010 1:20:00 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
This kid worships his lame .40 Short & Weak carbine like it is a work of art.  


I think you'll find there's quite a difference between "worshipping like a work of art", and saying "it works fine, I like it, if you can afford something better, definitely go for it."
2/25/2010 1:40:03 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:100% junk.  Period.

The carbines are junk as well.


Disagree strongly on the carbines. They're rated to eat a 100% diet of +P+, and are accurate+reliable.

They are ugly as sin, and have limited capacity, though.

If you want an enlightening read, try digging up GunTests' review of the Hipoint versus the Ruger PC9.
2/25/2010 3:31:42 PM EDT
[#21]
even thugged out gang bangers know better than to buy this crap
2/25/2010 6:05:50 PM EDT
[#22]
I've been tempted to buy one just to see what its all about since its so cheap. It seems people either think they are a great bang for the buck or complete crap. One thing I think everyone can agree on is that they are probably the ugliest guns ever created. Even makes Glocks look attractive
2/25/2010 6:18:32 PM EDT
[#23]
There are MUCH better guns for around the same money.  FEG PA-63, Polish P-64, CZ 82 and the S&W Model 10 just to give a few examples.
2/25/2010 9:04:25 PM EDT
[#24]



Quoted:



Quoted:100% junk.  Period.



The carbines are junk as well.





Disagree strongly on the carbines. They're rated to eat a 100% diet of +P+, and are accurate+reliable.



They are ugly as sin, and have limited capacity, though.



If you want an enlightening read, try digging up GunTests' review of the Hipoint versus the Ruger PC9.


Fuck "GunTests".  They're idiots.  I know..........I've read their crap.



 
2/28/2010 7:15:53 AM EDT
[#25]
hey, for a little change of pace, try the web site "best 9 mms"
they have a few nice comments on the hipoint 9
in any case, most interesting

billy boy
2/28/2010 5:59:37 PM EDT
[#26]


Looking at that slide by the way the letters look like they came out of a mold, and the way the break looks, It really looks like it was cast.

I don't buy the comment about how they save money by not milling the slide lighter because if this sucker is cast, and the direct blow back, it needs the thickness and the weight.

I thought about buying one just for a beater gun, and I figure I can't knock them until I get to know one...

I went to a gun shop planning on buying one, I held it, thought about it and decided I really did not want the thing.

2/28/2010 7:54:21 PM EDT
[#27]
Not very fun to take apart, but the 9mm version I had years ago never skipped  a beat no matter what ammo I shot.