Posted: 4/19/2009 11:02:25 PM EDT
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I really want a light rail for my G19. I called Smyrna and they said send it in with a check for $150 and we'll send you back your 19 with a rail...
The thing is I just got it where everything is perfect. The trigger is great (for a Glock Also, I hate finger grooves, so I would have to modify the new frame. So, what do you think? Is it worth it? |
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I really must say the one thing I love about the Glock the most is the frame. The Glock 19 is nice but I cant carry here in Hawaii so I want with the Glock 17 since it has a better feel if you have Med/Large-Large+ hands.. I just seem to be able to get the perfect grip shooting with 1 hand or both hands..
As for the light I would say learn to shoot good single hand and hold a light, it is really much better like that anyway when I was taking the NRA Piston Training class, I learned it is not good to have the light on your gun in the first place for many reasons.. But I can understand the Tacti"cool" factor of having a light on your handgun.. for everyone his own.. |
Geez, you guys are harsh
I want the light rail so that I can let my wife use it for a night stand gun. I want to make sure she has a light with her and that she can ID her target. I have several nice flashlights for me, I just think all that is a little too much for a non-gunner to get. |
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One thing to remember about having a light attached to your weapon is that wherever that light is, you are. Also your forced to point that gun to wherever you want to see. Tends to be somewhat limiting depending on it's mission. I would recommend a small mag lite, and take some time and learn to grip it with the gun. Just my 2 cents.
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I want the light rail so that I can let my wife use it for a night stand gun. I want to make sure she has a light with her and that she can ID her target. New gun for wifey. Problem solved. Seriously, is the G-19 your carry gun? If so, you need a dedicated night stand gun for the Mrs. Something that is there 100% of the time. If it's not.............. um, your G-19 becomes the shower gun? And a new gun for the Mrs. |
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I want the light rail so that I can let my wife use it for a night stand gun. I want to make sure she has a light with her and that she can ID her target. Then buy her her own gen3 Glock. Seriously IMO A. it's not worth $150 to get a gen2 upgraded to a gen3 (I actually wish my gen3 G19 was a gen2) and B. Sounds like she needs her own gun anyway. If she's at home with your Glock, what are you going to have on you? |
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One thing to remember about having a light attached to your weapon is that wherever that light is, you are. Also your forced to point that gun to wherever you want to see. Tends to be somewhat limiting depending on it's mission. I would recommend a small mag lite, and take some time and learn to grip it with the gun. Just my 2 cents. The New Guy! this |
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One thing to remember about having a light attached to your weapon is that wherever that light is, you are. Also your forced to point that gun to wherever you want to see. Tends to be somewhat limiting depending on it's mission. I would recommend a small mag lite Surefire, and take some time and learn to grip it with the gun. Just my 2 cents. The New Guy! Fixed |
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One thing to remember about having a light attached to your weapon is that wherever that light is, you are. Also your forced to point that gun to wherever you want to see. Tends to be somewhat limiting depending on it's mission. I would recommend a small mag lite Surefire, and take some time and learn to grip it with the gun. Just my 2 cents. The New Guy! Fixed Right, sorry I wasn't thinking lights at the time, used the first that popped into my head...though I prefer Black Hawk...again just preference. The new Guy! |
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Geez, you guys are harsh
I want the light rail so that I can let my wife use it for a night stand gun. I want to make sure she has a light with her and that she can ID her target. I have several nice flashlights for me, I just think all that is a little too much for a non-gunner to get. my night stand glock for me and wife is gen 3 with a weapon mounted light. How much low light training and room clearing have you done? I ask, because if you have done much with a handheld flashlight vs mounted light you know you want the mounted light. Moving to get children, one hand with the light, one with the pistol, and a third hand to open each door? Nope, women don't train much, hand held flashlight is not going to work for the average homeowner. Would I return a Gen 2, no, my Gen 1 sits the way it is. I bought another one. Get a 2nd, you won't need mags or ammo, you already have it. |
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http://www.comp-tac.com/product_info.php?products_id=61
There is an option for the TLR-1, M3, and X200 |
| Most of the major training facilities in the US will tell you not to have a weapon mounted light on your home defense gun. Get a good hand held tac light so you can use indirect light to search and still keep your firearm at the ready. I know your thinking how will you use your support hand but the longest shot you’re going to have in a home defense situation is about 8 feet. At that range you don’t need a support hand to stay on target and if you do you need more time at the range or a smaller caliber. |
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Most of the major training facilities in the US will tell you not to have a weapon mounted light on your home defense gun. Get a good hand held tac light so you can use indirect light to search and still keep your firearm at the ready. I know your thinking how will you use your support hand but the longest shot you’re going to have in a home defense situation is about 8 feet. At that range you don’t need a support hand to stay on target and if you do you need more time at the range or a smaller caliber. I have heard that, and one day I asked a vet that runs a whiz bang school "how is my wife going to open the doors to each room for each boy, and then carry the baby, the glock and the surefire with little practice? He said he had never considered it. A male defender of a house will setup a kill box and defend it for his family. A mother home alone will go to her children and put herself between them and the BG every time. Something to think about when picking out WIFE guns and training wives, think like them. |
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http://www.comp-tac.com/product_info.php?products_id=61 There is an option for the TLR-1, M3, and X200 ding, i do it with my G20/TLR-1 get her another gun, i agree with you on the weapon mounted light, you want to KISS when it comes to women, especially in a stress situation with a weapon i think a 3rd gen with a TLR1 will be just the ticket for you, hell mightas well get a G17 if it's gonna be a nite stand gun |
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Most of the major training facilities in the US will tell you not to have a weapon mounted light on your home defense gun. Get a good hand held tac light so you can use indirect light to search and still keep your firearm at the ready. I know your thinking how will you use your support hand but the longest shot you’re going to have in a home defense situation is about 8 feet. At that range you don’t need a support hand to stay on target and if you do you need more time at the range or a smaller caliber. 1. What "major training facilities" have taught you to not have a weapon mounted light on a HD gun? Vickers, Hackathorn, Magpul Industries, Tactical Response, Thunder Ranch, Suarez International, Front Site, Larue, others? I'm honestly curious. 2. Saying that you're only going to engage bad guys at 8 feet is on par with the people who proclaim their other opinions as facts. "The average gunfight only involves one bad guy." "The average gunfight only last 5 seconds." "If you need more than 5 bullets you're screwed anyways." It simply isn't the case for everyone. There are many places inside my home that are far longer than 8 feet, more like 20 and 30 feet, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. I know this because I practice dry fire drills from a marked 5, 10 and 15 yards, not feet. Get a tape measure out and mark 8 feet from your front door or back window, you'd be surprised at how short of a distance that really is. 3. Shooting a pistol accurately and effectively with both hands is far more easier than with only a single hand, especially during stress. Also, in low light conditions your accuracy with a pistol greatly decreases. And what if you have to clear a malfunction? You going to do effectively under stress while holding a flashlight? Just some food for thought. |
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No, it isn't worth it. I got one for free, sort of, and it still wasn't worth it. Back in '05 I noticed a piece of one of the frame rails had broken off my 2nd gen. G23. It still functioned fine but I contacted Glock and they said send it in. They replaced my 2nd gen. frame with a 3rd. gen. frame. It only cost me shipping, but even that was too much. I thought I would really like it, but there was something about that 2nd. gen. frame that just felt better.
I won't talk about the 2nd gen. G19 I sold several years ago for no good reason at all. |