Posted: 11/15/2012 11:22:29 AM EDT
| I can't take a pic since I don't have a 3rd arm (above the waist) but I will try to describe it. I wrap my right hand around and rest my right thumb right above the mag release. My other hand's bottom 3 fingers cuff the front of the grip. My left index finger wraps around the front of the trigger guard and my right thumb points forward right below the slide. |
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I can't take a pic since I don't have a 3rd arm (above the waist) but I will try to describe it. I wrap my right hand around and rest my right thumb right above the mag release. Good My other hand's bottom 3 fingers cuff the front of the grip. Almost good My left index finger wraps around the front of the trigger guard Not good and my right left thumb points forward right below the slide. Good Get that left index finger tucked UNDER the trigger guard and you're GTG. Here's a clip from Magpul's Art of the Dynamic Handgun that discusses grip. Travis Haley - Proper Handgun Grip |
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I can't take a pic since I don't have a 3rd arm (above the waist) but I will try to describe it. I wrap my right hand around and rest my right thumb right above the mag release. Good My other hand's bottom 3 fingers cuff the front of the grip. Almost good My left index finger wraps around the front of the trigger guard Not good and my right left thumb points forward right below the slide. Good Get that left index finger tucked UNDER the trigger guard and you're GTG. Here's a clip from Magpul's Art of the Dynamic Handgun that discusses grip. Travis Haley - Proper Handgun Grip Video was alot of help. He didn't 100% show how to do the "high ten"? grip he was talking about. For example I got the 45* but does the draw thumb go above or below the support thumb? |
| I've been told that I do it wrong also....wrong meaning I hook the trigger guard... I'm a slow learner....I roll my strong elbow upward to lock my wrist, and the weak hand hooked on the trigger guard keeps better isometric tension on my wrists...and keeps them from moving side to side..which allows the pistol to move side to side |
After playing with the two grips for a while I don't see how hooking the trigger is wrong. Placing my draw thumb above my left hand and hooking the trigger guard allows for a more secure hold of the gun and also allows your support hand to be higher. 
I just tried it again this way. My right thumb is actually on the slide lock, my left bird finger is right below the front of the trigger guard, and my index finger is hooked around the guard. It FEELS like I have a much more solid hold on the gun to keep the recoil down. |
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What is a wrong hold?
What is being taught now has been found to be very consistent and easy to learn, but there are a few tricks to it to get the most out of it. I grip the handgun with my firing hand so that it's as low in my hand as I can get it and the bore is inline with my forearm. I gently squeeze with my 3 fingers the front of the grip straight back into my wrist. Then I lock my support hand forward and wrap the fingers over the 3 firing hand fingers and have the support hand thumb alongside the frame. I wrap the firing hand thumb around the base of the other thumb as I've found that keeps it out of the way of the slide lock lever on my handguns. The support hand is squeezed a little more tightly than the firing hand. Then with the arms extended I roll my elbows out so they are almost horizontal and leave some slack with them. If I did it right nothing feels like it's being stretched and is pretty relaxed. So far I found this gives me the best control and consistency. Reason why the finger on the trigger guard isn't being taught much nowadays is it introduces inconsistency and can be seen as horizontal stringing. |
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I can't take a pic since I don't have a 3rd arm (above the waist) but I will try to describe it. I wrap my right hand around and rest my right thumb right above the mag release. Good My other hand's bottom 3 fingers cuff the front of the grip. Almost good My left index finger wraps around the front of the trigger guard Not good and my right left thumb points forward right below the slide. Good Get that left index finger tucked UNDER the trigger guard and you're GTG. Here's a clip from Magpul's Art of the Dynamic Handgun that discusses grip. Travis Haley - Proper Handgun Grip Video was alot of help. He didn't 100% show how to do the "high ten"? grip he was talking about. For example I got the 45* but does the draw thumb go above or below the support thumb? He was talking about a high TANG grip. That just means getting your weapon hand as high up on the grip as possible. And I keep my weapon hand thumb above (not on top of or covering) my support hand thumb. There's not so much a right and wrong way, just ways that have been proven more effective than others. But if you can rapidly and consistantly get all your shots on target with your finger wrapped in front of the trigger guard, then blast away! |
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I'm not weighing in on right or wrong grips. I know what I used to think worked, didn't. What I've been re-taught does work and the same grip doesn't necessarily apply to each gun. The way I grip a polymer pistol is different than my 1911 grip. Forward thumbs vs high thumbs and my NRA Action, open class grip is a combination left forward thumb, right high thumb grip. That one took some getting used too. Come to think of it, so did forward thumbs and learning to shoot a staple gun, think Glock.
The one thing the same with all grips used is left hand grips and right hand pulls the trigger. If you're saying you shoot better with non-trigger index wrapped around trigger guard you're likely pulling the trigger. Stop it, quit gripping with trigger hand. It's job is to pull trigger. |