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7/6/2006 7:10:03 PM EDT
OK gents, here is the question. Who all likes or dis-likes the LEM system and why or why not? I am new to the HK pistols after a detour with Glocks(which I still love). I was raised on a P7M8 and a pair of 91's. So you could say that I am familiar with the brand just not up on the new products. Thanks for your input.
7/6/2006 8:26:57 PM EDT
[#1]

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OK gents, here is the question. Who all likes or dis-likes the LEM system and why or why not? I am new to the HK pistols after a detour with Glocks(which I still love). I was raised on a P7M8 and a pair of 91's. So you could say that I am familiar with the brand just not up on the new products. Thanks for your input.



It's definitely a polarizing subject.  I tried it on a P2K and I just can't stand that trigger.  Some swear by it.  To me it felt like the trigger travel was too long and it felt real mushy towards the end.  There's a definite "stacking" that occurs as you get closer to the break.

But, I have a friend who shot my P2K and loved the thing.  I ended up selling him that pistol.

I also can't stand the "standard" double action pull on the USP, so I go single action only.  Their DA leaves a lot to be desired, and I was never a big fan of having my trigger pull change after my first shot anyway.

Now, there are other people who are going to reply to this and tell you how great the LEM is.  That's because a lot of folks love it.  You might too, so don't avoid it just because of my experience.  I recommend you try it out.  I'd say definitely shoot before you buy though, to figure out if you're in the "love it" or "hate it" crowd.  Most of the people I've talked to are in one or the other, and not in the middle.
7/6/2006 8:36:18 PM EDT
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I am personal fan of DA/SA on all various firearm (such as SIG H&K).

Just that H&K DA trigger is really heavy. My gf has a P2000sk V3 (sa/da), and she have little hard time pulling DA trigger. I recommanded her the LEM (V1 w/5lbs, or V2 ), but she said she will just keep V3.

I would recommand LEM if

1 someone have a weak hand or carpal problem.
2 do not like to have 1 consistant trigger
3. more combat/ccw than target. So that you don't have to decock after defending your self.
7/7/2006 3:22:53 PM EDT
[#3]
I really like the LEM as well as SIGs DAK triggers, and cannot wait to try the new Beretta "C" (continuous action) copy, but they are most definitely not "target" trigger actions. I will most likely never buy another of any of these three brands without these triggers, but I use revolvers and 1911s for target shooting, and have used DA revolvers for decades. For defensive / service use I think the LEM shines so long as you can easily reach the trigger on the pistol you are shooting. They do take a little "getting used to".
7/9/2006 12:05:15 PM EDT
[#4]
I had my competition USP (for Practical Rifle) converted to a light LEM. Basically I turned it into a Glock, but with a longer first trigger pull. Otherwise, the "single action" resent is exactly the same.
7/10/2006 12:26:28 AM EDT
[#5]
I have the light LEM on my USP9f. Great 'DA' pull, coupled with a short reset makes for very fast double taps. I'll be looking at a P2000 soon, and it sure as heck will be a LEM model.
7/11/2006 8:52:48 PM EDT
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I actually have both a USP-C .45 V1 and a P2000 9MM LEM. I switched the V2 LEM springs out and now have the 4-4.5 lb. pull as in a V1.

I really like both weapons, but the LEM is great. With a little practice, I have become pretty proficient with the LEM trigger. You can really feel the quick reset if you shoot with only one hand. Anyway, you can't beat the LEM trigger for being able to put a lot of ammo down range quickly. I also like the way the short hammer stays concealed. If you like a 2-stage AR trigger, the LEM should feel pretty good as well.

I have considered having my USP-C converted to a LEM trigger, but on balance, I like having one of each. So I guess I will leave my USP-C as a DA/SA V1.